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• 1. Joshua  |  January 13th, 2006 at 11:45 am

  Chuck Adams bull elk that he shot in Montana should not be allowed in any record books. I have heard several stories from credible people that he doesn’t incorporate a fair chase. I have been doing some research and it is a shame that some one like that gets all the press. I hope Patterson isn’t like that.

• 2. Dustin  |  January 13th, 2006 at 1:10 pm

  I think Chuck Adams is one of the greatest archery hunters of all time. Everything I’ve heard and read about him all says the same. He works extremely hard and excells in this great sport.

• 3. Daniel  |  January 15th, 2006 at 8:15 pm

  I have heard that he will work with a guide while scouting and then when the hunt comes along, he drops the guide and does it by himself. Just my 2 cents…

• 4. brian perry  |  January 18th, 2006 at 5:45 pm

  give the new guy the record if it is legal!

• 5. Kevin  |  February 21st, 2006 at 8:52 pm

  I don’t doubt that Chuck Adams is a good hunter, but why rub it in our faces (those of us who can’t hunt for a living), by standing way back, holding on to the animal with arms extended to make the animal look much larger than it really is. Is there any way I can get some arm extensions to make my scrawny 6-point appear to be a trophy class animal? And one more thing, please don’t keep reminding us who owns the record for the particular species, we can just assume that if you are writing about it, you most likely own the record. Just my rant!! Bushy

• 6. Tate  |  March 14th, 2006 at 9:22 am

  Chuck Adams knows how to hunt. You are all just jealous that you are crapy hunters. Good hunters like that always get blamed for things that arn’t true. I know.

• 7. Doug  |  March 14th, 2006 at 11:40 am

  I cant believe you guys are hacking on Chuck addams for going on a guided hunt when shawn patterson killed the pending world record on the first day of his high dollar guided hunt with John Mcclendon outfitters.(both are legal and ethical ways to kill an elk) What is the difference. It’s not like either one were killed self guided on public land by a carpenter with a 10 year old bow…. Give it a break… It’s amazing that no huge bull is killed without a story about poaching or unethical behavior….Get a life

  Jelousy is the ugliest thinng about hunting and killing big bulls. I think we’ve got bigger problems than guys doing things legally(lame a**% who kill huge bulls in high fence and straigh out poachers).

• 8. cheeks  |  March 15th, 2006 at 10:57 pm

  most guided hunts are for people who are to lazy to scout or are just after the horns, theres meat below the head…….good meat i might add, hunting is fun but its work that i enjoy. its about the hunt not the kill!!!

• 9. ray  |  May 26th, 2006 at 12:08 pm

  cant we look back to were chuck was arested for shoting elkey the pet elk in yellowstone an call it a record book fair chase. didnt he do time for it ? wasnt it reconized on his hunt video by game an fish that new elky personaly?

• 10. Mr. Mark L. Reid  |  June 14th, 2006 at 1:29 am

  hey guys, I have just latley got to meet chuck adams in north carolina. To me a man who has never been on a guided bowhunt in his life but has bowhunted for 20 years I have to say that chuck is a icon in bowhunting he has been a mentor in my life as well as in others I am very happy for chuck and his records in bowhunting history.it is about bowhunting fellow archers. if i can ever afford to go on a guided hunt i hope I will be as luckey as chuck. He is a great guy my mentor along with greats like howard hill and fred bear. Its all about enjoying the hunt not bitterness.GOD loves each and every one of us lets dont forget without him none of us could even draw a bowstring happy hunting. Pastor MARK L.REID

• 11. Dan  |  June 23rd, 2006 at 1:47 pm

  As a matter of fact, I can substantiate one of those first comments on here. I live in Montana and personally know several people who can verify this. Guides for an outfitter in Central Montana, near White Sulfur Springs, were scouting for Chuck and found this newest big bull he killed in 2003. They alerted him to his presence, then kept everyone out of the area (which was a private ranch leased by them) until Chuck arrived. He did hunt it himself, and he did kill it himself. But he also had it all lined up in advance. No doubt he’s an amazing bowhunter, but there’s no way you or I could have that opportunity. There’s a reason he kills big bulls every year…he’s go the money.

• 12. Bruce  |  August 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pm

  Dan (above) is correct. I am also from Montana, and personally know one of the ranch managers of a private ranch that “scouts” for Chuck. They call him, he pays the big $$$, and then goes hunting. The ranch manager gets very angry when asked about the ethics, stating that’s what we have to do to make ends meet.” I do believe Chuck is a very good bow hunter, but given the opportunities presented to him …………………….

• 13. jim  |  August 18th, 2006 at 1:21 pm

  Here’s my 2 cent…..I know chuck very well, in fact I have guided him and his dad charials several times on hunts in the North West Territory and in Southern Alberta , and can tell you that there are very few hunters out there that could keep up with him …in my opinion he has done more for bow hunting and to promote bow hunting then any one else I know . He wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth, like some of you might think, he works extremely hard at what he dose so he can afford those high dollar hunts

• 14. tipmonster  |  August 24th, 2006 at 10:27 pm

  Everyone has their own opinion on these hunts. The fact of the matter is that if anyone of us could have the time and afford to do so, we would engage in these hunts also. I would also bet that if given the opportunity, that most of us (including myself) would not have the success that Chuck has had, given the same opportunity. Just because the elk is located, that does not mean that it will be on the ground. Please respect and appreciate these men and all that they do for the sport of bow hunting. I have to ask you. ‘Would you do the same if given the chance.

• 15. jared  |  October 4th, 2006 at 5:20 pm

  everybody seems too be hackin on chuck adams this is a good thing! my opinion is this he claims that the elk he hunts and kills are quote ” heavily pressured and pursued by public land hunters” that is so far from the truth that for him to say that must be the only way he can feel good about and eventually believe, thru repition, that his accomplishments are worthy enough to be crowned the worlds best bowhunter. I could go on and on but he himself and anyone that has put alot of time in hunting public land knows the truth. I know all this because I live less than 30 miles from the vast private ranch he hunts and I know exactly how much public land is around there to hunt. Outside of some scattered sections of blm or state ground that you and I cannot access there is none. On top of it all it is so heavily patrolled that you cannot even drive that county road with a rifle in the rack. that is my 10 cents and I know it to be true and I am not jealous in any way shape or form I just hate liars. that is the only rumor I know too be true If the rest of the rumors I hear around town are true I would be ashamed to be Chuck Adams.

• 16. cris 0.  |  October 4th, 2006 at 5:25 pm

  I think you make sense

• 17. bob r.  |  October 19th, 2006 at 6:21 pm

  Animals killed on guided hunts on private ranches should not be allowed in the records books. A record animal should be one that is accessable to all comers.

• 18. steve a.  |  October 21st, 2006 at 8:11 pm

  as an archer i have respect for most fellow archers. ones that follow game laws, and do not damage property. there are some of us who do not respect fellow hunters, property, and worse the animals that make it all possible. i live in new mexico and like most of us i will never be able to go on a guided private land hunt. i do not feel those hunts are wrong. if i could i would. everybody above wrote what they felt and alot had good arguements. some wanted to bash another archer ok, but for what just because he uses all of his resources. i use all of mine everytime i am in the woods as do ALL of us. a fair chase hunt is what really matters, not whose land it is on. i know alot of you think fair chase means self guided public land hunts. when i started bowhunting i used a recurve with wooden arrows. so i have to ask, if you still feel chuck cheats because he has scouts and hunts private ranches, your ethics are stronger than mine but what is your quiver full of carbon or cedar?

• 19. Shawn  |  November 6th, 2006 at 4:35 pm

  Let’s set the record as true as it can be. I shot the elk on public land, other hunters were all around me and God blessed me with the honor of shooting the new pending world record. Every person who has a friend that goes hunting with then can be clasified as “Guided” and just because you have a guide does not disqualify you from taking a record animal. It was shot legaly and more importantly ethicaly. I scout and spend more than the average person in the field. But I also know after waiting 6 years for a tag that I want to make the most of my opportunity and go with the best guide there is. So lets just all agree Chuck Adams is a very accomplished Bow Hunter and take our hats off to him and likewise recognise the accomplishments that others have made. I wish you all the best and hope to bump into you in the field.

• 20. Dan  |  November 6th, 2006 at 6:59 pm

  Shawn,
  Your accomplishments don’t need defending. You hold the record, and yes, God Blessed you.
  Thanks for acknowledging where your blessings came from.
  Take Care,
  Dan

• 21. dmoney  |  November 13th, 2006 at 11:07 pm

  seriously all of you who criticize chuck adams are envious and jealous that he gets the opportunity to hunt elk like that and i know every one on this would hunt the elk he gets to hunt so stop getting all whiney about it because you can’t do what he does. thanks fellas

• 22. Tony M.  |  November 14th, 2006 at 10:50 am

  Some of you need to take a few seconds and think about who your talking about. [Chuck Adams] I think it is obsured for anybody to bad mouth a hunter of his level, I hope that makes you guys feel like more acomplished hunter’s. It also shows who’s boss [Chuck] everybody loves to hate on the boss. I am only 21years old and it seems I have a more positive attitude than most of you hunter’s. It would be nice if everybody had something positive to say, I guess that’s what seperates that negitive from the positive.

• 23. Matt  |  December 30th, 2006 at 5:03 pm

  Greetings: Some of you state that the 2003 bull the Chuck Adams killed was done so on private land. I have no idea if this is true or not but I would like to know. Was the 2000 bull (409) also killed on the same ranch? If so, how could this be verified. Obviously, I willl not be able to hunt there….I do not have the time or money. I am merely curious about what area other than the N-bar ranch in Central Montana has the genetics and feed to grow this many massive bulls. Thanks for any input.

• 24. Marvin  |  March 14th, 2007 at 6:28 pm

  To update this post a little, Shawn has now been officially panel scored by P&Y and IS the new typical world record American Elk, surpassing Chuck Adam’s bull discussed in the thread above. His official score is 412 1/8 I believe.

• 25. rich marquardt  |  March 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

  I am a montana resident,some of the elk ranches in this state offer hunts that are as challenging as public land hunts.Others are no more challenging then choosing a nice t-bone from your local market! Having said this,the hunter is really the only one who knows how fair the hunt was!!! I dont Know if Shawn sleeps good or not but what a trophy!!!

• 26. greg  |  March 18th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

  I saw Shawn’s elk today at Cableas @ Hamburg , Pa where the P&Y panel scoring took place. It is the new world record. Unbelievable shawn, great job. the pics in magazines don’t do it justice. what an awesome rack, I dont’ know how you kept your composure long enough to get an arrow to fly true.

• 27. Tom  |  April 13th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

  It seems to me that everytime someone does something extraordinary people attack him. Chuck Adams is extraordinary. He has worked hard doing what he loves and now people attack him because of it. I have seen some of the most ignorant comments about this, especially the one claiming Chuck killed an elk illegally in Yellowstone. WASN’T HIM. Get over it. He is good at what he does. Numerous guides were interviewed in the book “Life at Full Draw”, and all of them stated that he was one of the best if not the best hunter they had ever been with, and that he packed out every portion of meet humanely possible. Give credit where it is do.

• 28. Steve  |  May 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pm

  My wife and I just returned from Lancaster, Pennsylvania. We attened the Pope and Young 25th Biennium Convention and Awards Banquet. The Saturday night awards banquet was very pleasent and enjoyable. At our table at the banquet, there was 10 people and one was Shaun Patterson. Shaun is a great guy, he took no credit for the bull, he knows it was luck. He knows it was God’s will. Thank you for a very pleasent evening Shaun, I hope to see you again soon.

• 29. The Best of 2006…Monste&hellip  |  May 23rd, 2007 at 12:43 pm

  […] After the 2005 hunting season, Arizona was riding high with their potential world record typical archery bull taken by Shawn Patterson, Utah had a new typical state record at 408 2/8 and Nevada quietly took home the honors of the largest non-typical elk scoring 415 net! There was a lot of excitement heading into the 2006 season, and I wondered just how the elk hunts would fair. Questions loomed in certain parts of the West as to how the drought would affect antler growth and the rut, as well as whether or not Utah could continue its amazing streak of record book bulls. The smoke has cleared, and for the most part many of the big bulls have been scored and brought to the forefront as the 2006 season rolled to an end. […]

• 30. Gregg  |  July 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pm

  Reading this thread reminds me how important it was to write and publish “Life at Full Draw, The Chuck Adams Story.” It seems that the rumors about Chuck will never go away. Obviously many have still not read the book! One person in this thread has him confused with Don Lewis for goodness sakes.

  I also once published an article by Shawn P. by all accounts a hard-core, tough, talented hunter. (Congratulations Shawn!)

  Follow the rules of fair chase and game laws and applaud others who do the same when they succeed, do not begrudge them their success because they hunted private land vs. public or guided vs. unguided.

• 31. Joseph  |  July 27th, 2007 at 11:32 am

  I beg to differ with Shawn over his own hunt. Yes, I know he was there and I wasn’t. But I do not believe for a moment it was just luck and God’s will. A bull elk does not get to be that big and healthy by being stupid. A hunter does not get himself in the right place at the right time by just luck. And, as noted above, he won’t keep his composure and make a good shot at that kind of target without lots of practice. I would carry your gear just to watch and learn from you, Shawn.

• 32. Tim  |  August 23rd, 2007 at 5:05 pm

  One point that I think many of gain sayers on this thread are missing is we need to look at Chuck Adams beginings…

  Yes, now he has some money to throw around and can get on some good ranches to hunt (his priviledge). He can do that because NOW he is popular. His beginings were humble and he aquired the reputation by going out into the field and knocking down some monsters. Let me say it this way:

  Chuck Adams is not great because he is going on private land and knocking down big animals. He has knocked down big animals because he is great. His hunting on private land now is only the fruit of his success from paying his dues in earlier years and accquiring a reputation.

  Lastly and VERY important. In the last 10-15 years we have seen a lot of technology break thrus in bow hunting. Bows today are MUCH better than bows of yesteryear. The reason for this is because companies are able to make a profit at manufacturing and research. Archery is such a profitable sport largely due to the fact that men like Churck Adams have promoted the sport attrachted a larger crowd. The monies from these “newbies” has enabled the companies to produce some of the best shooting machines we have ever had. We are living in the “golden age” of archery hunting and we owe guys like Chuck Adams some of the credit.

  Thats my story and I’m stickin to it.

• 33. john p mattei  |  September 24th, 2007 at 10:55 am

  Input time! I personally know Shawn and have hunted with hin as his friend and hunting partner. We have not always agreed on how or where to hunt, but we have always agreed to HUNT. I have found Shawn to be one of, if not the most ethical and even kind and polite hunter I have ever hunted with. I can attest to having seen Shawn give up his prime spot of choice only to accomodate those he hunts with. I believe one reason for his success is his being granted a heavenly reward for being so unselfish in his hunting style. This man is, without a doubt, one of the strongest personalities I have ever met, yet finds it in his heart to yield of himself for the sake of others. If many of you bear jealousy, I feel for you. Sure, I wish this elk were mine, but I do not put the time, nor do I put the effort in to secure the trophies Shawn and even Chuck Adams do. Trust me, Shawn does a fair hunt. He pays his dues with the energy expended to secure his animals. He is honest, Godly, respectful and a talented hunter keeping life and it’s priorities in a healthy balance. Ok, so Shawn is a friend of mine. Thats ok. I am quite selective in choosing my friends. Shawn, at the risk of my sounding egotistical, is one person I am proud to count among my list of friends. Oh, I have personally spent time with Chuck Adams as well. Though no time has been spent with him in the field, I will say this about him and people in general. It is very difficult to live a lie. Though some are accomplished at this lowly feat, I doubt seriously if Chuck can be counted among them. Chuck would have been hard pressed to fake me or many others out by attempting to be what he is not. His credibility ranks high in my book. Again, I may not know him as well as I know Shawn, but I certainly choose to go through liife looking at the more positive and encouraging side of life as oppossed to searching out the negatives and finding fault with those at the top just because I am not there. I would only hope one day to have the super artical written about me and then, at that time, I will sit back and enjoy my moments of fame while so many others choose to try and shoot me from the atop my short lived and tiny seat of fame. RELAX–GO HUNTING WITH YOUR FRIENDS!

• 34. Joe  |  October 26th, 2007 at 8:19 am

  Wow - from how some of these posts read I guess thet saying is true, “A hunter’s worst enemy is another hunter.”

  I got news for a lot of you - if you wokr hard and save your pennies you too can hunt whatever you want - maybe juts once - but whatever you want. Chuck Adams and others of his ilk have made choices in life that allow them to do things we view as “not possible for hte average guy” or require “being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.” Ask yourself this: What would you be willingn to give up to hunt like Chuck? Would you give up your job and become self employed to allow you the potential to earn more money and make your own schedule. Would you seel your McMansion and buy a two bedroom rancher and use the difference to hunt? Would you never buy a car that costs more than say $8,000? Would you not have children so you could spend more time and money hunting? These are all things some peoiple do so they can pursue their dreams and adventures. It’s unlikely you can have it all - so pick what you want. But don’t bash those who picked what you would do “if I could afford it.” Because if you REALLY want to , you can.

• 35. Salami Bin Throbbin  |  November 12th, 2007 at 1:29 pm

  Chuck Adams is the hardest working man in bowhunting and a nicer guy you’ll never meet! He started out as just an average joe who has parlayed his exceptional skill and DEDICATION to bowhunting into monetary success. More power to him.

  There is not one of us here that wouldn’t take advantage of the opportunities He HAS CREATED for himself. Chuck has made tons of personal sacrifices in his life to attain the level of success he has achieved. No one handed him anything.

  Now that he is getting older, he takes advantage of his prior hard work and enjoys the fruit of his efforts.

  If you have a gripe with the way records are kept, start a record registry that separates public land, from private land from tribal land etc. etc. Go for it.

  When you get that registry set up, you’ll find Chuck Adams’ name in all of the different categories EXCEPT high fence. Chuck has hunted in all types of terrain, climate, and ownership.

  Trophy hunting is kind of like what Willy Sutton said about bank robbing - you’ve got to go where the game is!

• 36. Derek Shaw  |  January 1st, 2008 at 11:32 am

  this has been a great column to read. I do agree that chuck adams is a great hunter and so is shawn, i just don’t agree with the guided hunts that take animals that are claimed as world records!!! I live in Alberta and know for a fact that Chuck adams comes up here to hunt mule deer every year on one of our ranhes that only allows 6 hunters a year. Chuck kills a 200 inch buck every year but has hundreds to choose from and no other hunting pressure. With as mush time as he puts inot hunting even Could take a 200 inch buck every year. Its sad that money buys you trophies. To me there is nothing sweeter than taking a trophy animal on public land where anyone can hunt, these are the animals that should be accepted in the record books. What is going to happen the day someone kills the new rifle typical elk on a guided hunt that cost thousands. hopefully this never happens, but the way the hunting world is going right now it more than likely will.

• 37. Joe F  |  February 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

  Chuck Adams is a normal guy who saw his goal in time to acheive it. That’s it. Wasn’t born rich. Doesn’t capitalize on his name by selling products and videos with his name on it. He’s helped me alot and never hesitates to give me answers to my questions. I’m glad somebody in this thread mistaked him for the Yellowstone poacher. It shows how jealous and uneducated some can be. Wasn’t the Yellowstone paocher Fred Bear? Not! Give all of these guys credit for the dedication to eventually make their own luck.

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