Comments on: Six People Injured by Wolf Attack http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/ Behind the Scenes at King's Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:55:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: a.j. hopkin http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-186136 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:20:58 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-186136 i say wolf season. my friend just lost his best hound to wolves and the feds said he couldn't shoot it cause it was on public ... i say wolf season. my friend just lost his best hound to wolves and the feds said he couldn’t shoot it cause it was on public …

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Nancy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-172876 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:40:05 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-172876 No Rick, didn't feel attacked by your comments. That is what this forum is all about - the difference in opinions when it comes to "live & let live" and respecting each person's opinion. And with that said, idbigboy you said: "A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks" Are you aware that dogs (fido, man's best friend) kill far more livestock in this country than wolves and they usually do it for fun or just because they are bored and running loose? No public outcry about that fact. I am not against a rancher protecting his livestock, I am against declaring an open season on an animal that by its re-introduction, is bringing back a balance in nature that has been missing because of man's ignorance. No Rick, didn’t feel attacked by your comments. That is what this forum is all about - the difference in opinions when it comes to “live & let live” and respecting each person’s opinion. And with that said, idbigboy you said:
“A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks”
Are you aware that dogs (fido, man’s best friend) kill far more livestock in this country than wolves and they usually do it for fun or just because they are bored and running loose?
No public outcry about that fact.
I am not against a rancher protecting his livestock, I am against declaring an open season on an animal that by its re-introduction, is bringing back a balance in nature that has been missing because of man’s ignorance.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Rick in Idaho http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-168645 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:08:12 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-168645 John C. nicely put. Probably one of the most smartest things said so far, including my own ranting...ha ha. It is a valuable point for continued management, especially on ANYTHING we start to manage in the first place. While I never will agree with Fish and Game about how many wolves we had (supposedly) before the reintroduction, I am happy to see them trying to put together plans to keep the wolves in check. I only hope that PETA, etc. can see past their own emotions enough to realize that there IS a compromise fit for the environment and wolves.....MANAGEMENT Nancy, I hope you didn't feel I was attacking you. I didn't mean for you to answer my question, and I know you feel the same pride in the things you display as I do. Thank you for your respect, and like they say "its just different strokes for different folks." John C. nicely put. Probably one of the most smartest things said so far, including my own ranting…ha ha. It is a valuable point for continued management, especially on ANYTHING we start to manage in the first place. While I never will agree with Fish and Game about how many wolves we had (supposedly) before the reintroduction, I am happy to see them trying to put together plans to keep the wolves in check. I only hope that PETA, etc. can see past their own emotions enough to realize that there IS a compromise fit for the environment and wolves…..MANAGEMENT
Nancy, I hope you didn’t feel I was attacking you. I didn’t mean for you to answer my question, and I know you feel the same pride in the things you display as I do. Thank you for your respect, and like they say “its just different strokes for different folks.”

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: idbigboy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-167371 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:09:14 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-167371 The humans that I hunt with do not kill to just kill. A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks. I wouldn't have much of an issue with this if it was the native wolf that was introduced back. This is a totally different species. It would be like introducing a piranha into a lake to replace all the bass that were caught. I don't have any issues with any native predator they are needed and beautiful. The most ironic thing is you living were "they live" is probably taking up precious winter ranging and habitat. A lot of the "ecos" in Boise have huge houses that take up almost all of the winter ranges in the valley. Don't worry because they will leave 10% for the wildlife. The humans that I hunt with do not kill to just kill. A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks. I wouldn’t have much of an issue with this if it was the native wolf that was introduced back. This is a totally different species. It would be like introducing a piranha into a lake to replace all the bass that were caught. I don’t have any issues with any native predator they are needed and beautiful. The most ironic thing is you living were “they live” is probably taking up precious winter ranging and habitat. A lot of the “ecos” in Boise have huge houses that take up almost all of the winter ranges in the valley. Don’t worry because they will leave 10% for the wildlife.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: John C. http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-166718 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:49:11 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-166718 A "workable solution" would be for man to manage all the populations. The answer isn't to let the wolves populate to the point where they decimate the other populations but I don't have a problem with managing the species size. Where I live if the whitetail weren't managed by us then it would be foolish to think our ecosystem would be in a healthy state. By no means necessary does our government have anything of this nature figured out but it's hard to solve any problem with hsus and peta breathing down any government officials neck when talks of population manage are uttered. The wolves have a right just as we do and the bears and cougars but we have just as much of a right to manage a population so situations like this are few and far between. A “workable solution” would be for man to manage all the populations. The answer isn’t to let the wolves populate to the point where they decimate the other populations but I don’t have a problem with managing the species size. Where I live if the whitetail weren’t managed by us then it would be foolish to think our ecosystem would be in a healthy state. By no means necessary does our government have anything of this nature figured out but it’s hard to solve any problem with hsus and peta breathing down any government officials neck when talks of population manage are uttered. The wolves have a right just as we do and the bears and cougars but we have just as much of a right to manage a population so situations like this are few and far between.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Nancy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-165515 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:45:42 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-165515 Eco nightmare to whom? The site you make reference to idbigboy (saveourelk) points out the "dangers" of wolves but neglects to point out the fact that they want to "save" the elk so humans can kill them. Humans can kill elk - wolves can't. How do you rationalize that? Non-native? Wolves whether they are called Timber or Grey - more native than you or I. They unfortunately couldn't avoid the traps, poisons and bounties, close to a hundred years ago and went the way of to many other species that got in the way of humans. Now they are back, I don't have a problem with it (and I live where they live) We have mountain lion around and the occasional grizzly too. There are so few wild places left, I'd like to think humans are intelligent enough to realize that and find a workable solution that benefits all wildlife. Eco nightmare to whom? The site you make reference to idbigboy (saveourelk) points out the “dangers” of wolves but neglects to point out the fact that they want to “save” the elk so humans can kill them. Humans can kill elk - wolves can’t. How do you rationalize that?

Non-native? Wolves whether they are called Timber or Grey - more native than you or I. They unfortunately couldn’t avoid the traps, poisons and bounties, close to a hundred years ago and went the way of to many other species that got in the way of humans. Now they are back, I don’t have a problem with it (and I live where they live) We have mountain lion around and the occasional grizzly too. There are so few wild places left, I’d like to think humans are intelligent enough to realize that and find a workable solution that benefits all wildlife.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: idbigboy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-165048 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:04:25 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-165048 Nancy wolves do not just kill to survive or exist they kill for sport just like some humans do. You may want to check out saveourelk.com this is a non-native species that has been introduced which is an eco nightmare. Nancy wolves do not just kill to survive or exist they kill for sport just like some humans do. You may want to check out saveourelk.com this is a non-native species that has been introduced which is an eco nightmare.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Nancy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-162256 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:48:47 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-162256 And not to ignore your question Rick : Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see?? Yes I've got lots of prints, pictures and some original paintings from all aspects of life on my walls, I'm proud to display them but no heads or hides, I can't relate to the need to display something dead especially when it was so much more vibrant alive. And not to ignore your question Rick :
Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see??
Yes I’ve got lots of prints, pictures and some original paintings from all aspects of life on my walls, I’m proud to display them but no heads or hides, I can’t relate to the need to display something dead especially when it was so much more vibrant alive.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Rick in Idaho http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-161968 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:37:09 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-161968 "nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag......" is a "racist" opinion based on your own feeling. I'm not being mean, but have some respect for the hunters that FEED THEIR FAMILY. I personally don't know 1 person that hunts just to brag, or hang things. I'm not saying these people don't exist, but I think 9 out of ten is a very dramatic profile. Do I hang dead animals on the wall? You bet......and my kids also hang their drawings on the refrigerator, because maybe they are proud of the hard work and the accomplishment of something. Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see?? I don't want to pick at anyone, because it goes on forever and the point of the topic gets off track.....there are obviously different people here with different lifestyles that are going to produce different "statistics," so lets not pick at who we are and make silly guesses about the other. Poster #62, please add something to your name next time you post so people don't think you are me. By the way, wolf season will open up....hopefully by this fall, and yes I will shoot one. I might even hang it on my wall. “nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag……” is a “racist” opinion based on your own feeling. I’m not being mean, but have some respect for the hunters that FEED THEIR FAMILY. I personally don’t know 1 person that hunts just to brag, or hang things. I’m not saying these people don’t exist, but I think 9 out of ten is a very dramatic profile. Do I hang dead animals on the wall? You bet……and my kids also hang their drawings on the refrigerator, because maybe they are proud of the hard work and the accomplishment of something. Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see?? I don’t want to pick at anyone, because it goes on forever and the point of the topic gets off track…..there are obviously different people here with different lifestyles that are going to produce different “statistics,” so lets not pick at who we are and make silly guesses about the other. Poster #62, please add something to your name next time you post so people don’t think you are me.
By the way, wolf season will open up….hopefully by this fall, and yes I will shoot one. I might even hang it on my wall.

]]> Comment on Six People Injured by Wolf Attack by: Nancy http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-161009 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:12:56 +0000 http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2006/09/13/six-people-injured-by-wolf-attack/#comment-161009 Less than 7% of this country "hunts" Is it really about introducing non-native predators ( wolves, who were already working their way back to this area from Canada) or what little areas are left to "hunt" regardless of whether your a wolf or a human. The difference? Wolves hunt to exist - nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag and hang (that head in the livingroom which does nothing other than gather dust?) although a few actually hunt to supplement the grocery bill, but I can count them on one hand when hunting season comes around here. http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0107/p03s01-ussc.html Please forgive me for being so direct, JW to the south, its not a matter of finding solutions, to many of us are way to concerned about whether our cells phones work or how much time we can stuff into a day. Its a matter of what humans continue to take away from every other species out there. We seem to think our very existance is the only thing that matters. Biggest death rate in deer around here? The roads, got to get them paved and while we enjoy the smooth surfaces and now higher speeds that travel affords us, the wildlife can't get off them quick enough anymore.......I've never seen elk dead on the roads here, hit by cars, but I can count 2 in the last couple of months. Humans keep taking away but spend little time making an effort to give back to what we've taken away. Thats my beef and I'm sticking to it!!!! Less than 7% of this country “hunts” Is it really about introducing non-native predators ( wolves, who were already working their way back to this area from Canada) or what little areas are left to “hunt” regardless of whether your a wolf or a human.
The difference? Wolves hunt to exist - nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag and hang (that head in the livingroom which does nothing other than gather dust?) although a few actually hunt to supplement the grocery bill, but I can count them on one hand when hunting season comes around here.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0107/p03s01-ussc.html

Please forgive me for being so direct, JW to the south, its not a matter of finding solutions, to many of us are way to concerned about whether our cells phones work or how much time we can stuff into a day. Its a matter of what humans continue to take away from every other species out there. We seem to think our very existance is the only thing that matters.
Biggest death rate in deer around here? The roads, got to get them paved and while we enjoy the smooth surfaces and now higher speeds that travel affords us, the wildlife can’t get off them quick enough anymore…….I’ve never seen elk dead on the roads here, hit by cars, but I can count 2 in the last couple of months. Humans keep taking away but spend little time making an effort to give back to what we’ve taken away. Thats my beef and I’m sticking to it!!!!

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