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• 1. Rocky  |  September 17th, 2006 at 9:04 pm

  I think we should have a wolf season.

• 2. Austin  |  September 25th, 2006 at 1:50 pm

  There should a wolf season or maybe just kind of consider it like a varmint where you can hunt them all year long like you can to coyotes.

• 3. Javan  |  September 29th, 2006 at 5:13 pm

  why not ! But it will just be another way for your local Gov. to make money on native game.It would be nice if they actually raised and stocked game like wolves and deer!

• 4. chrhsier  |  October 2nd, 2006 at 9:15 pm

  I agree but call them a predator (open season year around).

• 5. 12ring  |  October 3rd, 2006 at 11:40 am

  50 miles from where I live, a family was having a BBQ for their son’s 9th birthday. They live in the country so the kids were playing in the back 40 and their dogs (wiener dogs) were playing between them and the house. Mind you, this is 4:00 in the afternoon. Out from the trees, two wolves appear and tear the dogs to shreds. The parents were screaming and shooting in the air to get the wolves to run. The wolves dragged off the dogs and then the parents called F&G. Big help they were. Told them that if they would have shot the wolves, they’d be in jail.

• 6. Rachel  |  November 9th, 2006 at 6:41 pm

  The wolfs r just hungry they dont know the differnce between the food they eat in the wood and u it aint there fault they were in there territory

• 7. Val  |  November 19th, 2006 at 9:45 pm

  I think we should open season on dogs. They attack 3 million people a year (CDC stats).

  Or maybe people - we had 5.2 million crimes of violence last year (CDC stats).

  There have been no fatal attacks of a wolf on a human in all of North America ever reported. When wolves do attack it’s because people have taken their territory over and there isn’t enough food for them, or if they’re sick.

  Get your facts, friends.

• 8. Joe Funk  |  December 4th, 2006 at 5:35 pm

  I think people should just let wolves be, because they were here first and this is their home, which we invaded… sure they attack people, but its a rare occurance… i mean if a wolf attacks someone its a front page article, but if another animal like a persons pet attacks someone then its just a little article in the paper… come on people get real wolves are like any other predator, so what makes them so special??? i mean come on dogs attack people alot more then wolves, so maybe we should kill them and make them an endangered species…….

• 9. Alex  |  December 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pm

  To #9:
  You’re wrong. Just this year a college student/intern in Canada was killed by a wolf just 300 yards from his outpost.

• 10. me  |  December 27th, 2006 at 3:00 pm

  There are several records of fatal wolf attacks by healthy wolves on humans in North America, but all except one happened in the 1800’s. Last year a 22-year old Canadian student was killed and partly devoured by a pack of healthy wolves as he took an evening walk by a frozen lake on the edge of the dense woods. Wolves do attack and kill humans. And we humans just have to live with it. It’s part of nature.

• 11. Purist  |  December 27th, 2006 at 7:22 pm

  Wolves in Idaho along with Grizzly bears are on the fast track to delisting….I don’t know about you all, but I’m putting in for that draw hunt when or if it happens.

• 12. Darren  |  January 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pm

  By reintroducing wolves the human race has only accomplished one thing. Job security for future wolf hunters. We will pay with our lives first-then theirs. It is inevitable!

• 13. jerry Huddleston  |  January 8th, 2007 at 10:53 am

  There are a hundred thousand times more domestic dogs than wolves. Percentage wise dog attacks are extremely rare. Every wolf kills full time for a living and sometimes for fun. A wolf does not kill and then eat it’s prey. A wolf just eats it to death. The prey just dies slowly from blood loss while being eaten.
  Any body who thinks wolves don’t kill and eat people when it is convenient does not have the ability to think logically for his self. There are hundreds of instances testified to throughout history that these gullible people simply explain away or dismiss as fables or lies.
  A hundred generations of people decided wolves were bad to have around. Now these liberals are smarter than all the generations of the past. This is truly amazing in light of the fact that this generation has never lived in contact with wolves.
  Their idea of an intact eco system is from Dances with wolves. They should really try Dancing with one sometime. It might restore them to sanity.
  Sort of like it did the grizzly man.

• 14. brandi  |  January 23rd, 2007 at 9:55 pm

  i think its rediculous that you cant kill wolves if they attack your pets or family. you can kill coyotes or anyhing else if theres a problem. its insane to put a wolfs life above a humans. if it were me and a wolf attacked my livestock or family, i sure as heck wouldnt sit back and watch the show. my familys lives are way more inportant than the price i would have to pay for shooting it.. who makes up these retarded rules? people need some common sense!!!!!!!

• 15. Blake Hart  |  January 29th, 2007 at 9:56 am

  in Idaho its gettin pretty nasty with the wolf population its way out of hand we need to eliminate some so the Island Park elk will come down they said on the news that will have more big game but all the wolves are eatin them up in the trees we should have done this season earlier

• 16. biscuit jane  |  January 29th, 2007 at 2:58 pm

  The wolf-huggers love to see people/pets/livestock get mauled or killed by predators.
  I for one am fed up with my tax dollars paying for the bs “wildlife” programs. They only serve to grow the government, restrict our rightful use of our own private property and they give a full pass to DFG to eviscerate our fifth amendment rights. I vote for open season. Heck if for no other reason than to watch the wolf-huggers cry and wail.

• 17. Ron Dodson  |  February 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 am

  To the person who says we invaded the wolfs territory and we should move. Only if you leave first. But where are you going to move that there never was a wolf? Some island in the pacific. That’s a great idea, all the people in the world move to Hawaii.Might be a little crowed. You think! As for the old lie about wolves never killing humans, tell that to the man from Ontario. Mountain Lions don’t kill people either. Go figure. Another true son of the Golden West, from Disney world I’d guess. As for me I’m just an old man who’s getting tired of this old worn out debate. In my life time sportsmen, mostly hunters, have invested million, maybe even billions of dollars on wildlife tags licenses and other ways,(taxes donations etc.) to improve wild life herds. Why? so they could be hunted? Or become Wolfe and Cougar food. Environmentalists, haven’t spent there money, they have your money to destroy your investment. Kinda sucks huh? Write your congressman the president, If they don’t respond,Then I guess your gonna have to figure it out For your self. I personally think every sportsman should spend,time and effort to harvest as many predators as legally possible.

• 18. Marie  |  February 6th, 2007 at 8:36 pm

  I agree with two of Ron’s comments. It’s almost impossible for people to move away from areas where there are wolves or other predators, and the people who are saying that wolves never attack or kill humans need to make sure they have the right facts before they make a comment. They’re hunters, and if they’re hungry enough they’ll kill what they feel they can catch. Wolves certainly don’t kill for fun. The fact is though, wolves don’t run around looking for people or livestock or pets to drag off into the woods and devour. To say that people should kill as many wolves as they can is ignorant. No, the idea of an intact ecosystem isn’t Dances with Wolves, but the natural predator in these areas needs to have a decent population, not the bare minimum. Wolves play a much larger role in the ecosystem than just eating game animals(which happen to be their primary food source) and livestock when it’s convenient for them. In fact, they may even help the game population because they target the sick or injured animals in herds, not the large healthy bucks that hunters want. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t be allowed to kill wolves if they are attacking someone or their livestock/pets. I’m not even saying that there shouldn’t be a season to hunt wolves, at least in places where the population is getting out of control. I’m just tired of seeing people on both ends of the argument make ridiculous comments without thinking about what they are saying. The comment that “wolf-huggers” love to see people and pets mauled by wolves is digusting. Really, we’re not all as crazy as you try to make us sound.

• 19. sam cooper  |  February 11th, 2007 at 3:20 am

  Hey! we want wolfes in Manhatan NY too. they were here then, and they should be here now,,,, maybe in central park…

• 20. Chuck  |  February 14th, 2007 at 11:43 pm

  So far the only one of you who has said anything that was not completely ignorant was Marie. People who speak up without thinking about what they say just celebrate their ignorance and give the brighter population something to laugh at. So thanks, I guess.

• 21. Kim  |  February 27th, 2007 at 11:18 pm

  I do not believe the far too popular qoute, “There has never been a wolf attack in North America”, or the line, “Wolves kill only the weak, sick and old.” For the last two hours I have been researching wolf attacks in this country in order to prove my liberal University Professor wrong about the gentle, peaceful nature of wolves. I am from Montana, and have actually come into contact with a wolf while camping. The wolf had stalked my families campsite for a whole night before appearing in plain daylight at our campfire the next morning (30 feet in front of my brother,sister and I). Thankfully, our German Shepherd came to our screaming rescue and ran it off. Otherwise, who knows what the outcome would have been.

• 22. Robert  |  February 28th, 2007 at 7:47 am

  What would you do with a wolf you killed. Eat it? No. If a wolf is attacking your dog, kill it. If a wolf is attacking you, definitely kill it. However, don’t kill a wolf just because you are jealous that you hunt the same prey.

• 23. Morgan.  |  March 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

  I think this is a load of crap. Six people injured? Right, I want to see the REAL record on it, not some hunters side of it. I know not to trust hunters, ever seince I have heard this hole “were buck” crap.
  If you think people should be able to kill wolves all year round, then you have something wrong with you. We need wolves, like we need alot of animals. They aren’t “varments” if anything is a varment we are. We kill ANYTHING if it has something we don’t have, like fur claws or teeth because they are a threat to us?
  “The wolf-huggers love to see people/pets/livestock get mauled or killed by predators.”
  Wolf huggers? Yea, I like wolves, and when I am old enough I will help save them. Before you say that we like to see people and animals get killed, dont be so simple minded. I’d be upset if one of my animals were killed by anything. But that doesnt mean I like seeing things mauled, and if a predator kills something, they kill it to eat it. Seriously, what are you going to do with a wolf but skin it. Its a waste of a bullet, and sensless killing, when it all comes down to it, you just may be as bad as you say the wolves are…

• 24. whittney  |  March 24th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

  I truly adore wolves for every feature they have and many other things. They have always been my favorite animal and when I get old enough I want to get a job where I can help save wolves or study them. I don’t know how peole have the heart to kill for just the fun it. There are people in this world that just don’t understand the fact that animals are a part of this world too. The animals weren’t put on this earth to kill, they were put here for us to love and nurture. Wolves are not vicious animals like most people think. They are peaceful animals that should be protected forever.

• 25. Purist  |  March 27th, 2007 at 1:38 am

  Our elementary school aged children are being brain washed by the Yellowstone Coalition and Sierra Club and the like to believe that wolves are a peaceful and caring animal. Unfortunately, where I live, the possibility for human contact is inevitable. So when these kids are old enough to venture on their own to the wilds there may be more reports of maulings.
  I don’t believe that animals kill maliciously or for “fun”, but I do believe that animals kill as part of their primal instinct….for food, competition, territorial and so on. It is as old as the animals themselves and an unstopable urge. House cats do it…breeding pairs of pet rodents will do it, too….sometimes domestic dogs do it.
  There is a lot of negative sentiment for the hunting of wolves, but I feel that now it is the only way to manage what we have…hopefully these kids will achieve a greater understanding for this way of thinking rather the absolute protection of the wolf.
  What a mess.

• 26. L_A  |  March 27th, 2007 at 11:31 am

  Purist has a pretty good point. I adore wolves too, but just like the other large predators, they need to be managed at some point. Unfortunately that probably will mean hunting. I can’t see the Fish and Wildlife Service allowing hunting of other predators, and never establishing a wolf season. Their numbers would grow until the deer and elk herds can’t support them anymore, and they’d be in more and more contact with humans until attacks do start to happen more often.

• 27. zoey  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 7:04 pm

  I think some packs should just be moved to a place that isn’t so inhabitant of wolves. I know it be a bit hard for them to adapt to thier new land, but they’d get used to it eventually. No hunting them! they don’t hunt for fun and mount the heads on their den walls, like we do, as if we really needed to kill that animal to survive. We are modern people, we can go to stores and get food or fake wolf heads to mount. Come on people! what right do we have to kill them? if one wolf does somthing to us, think about how we do three times as much stuff to them!

• 28. brody  |  April 7th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

  idaho should feel proud to have wolves as a part of an eco-system. they keep down your coyote problam,which would be far worse. just imangin having coyotes coming to your house every night looking for something.they are wild dogs,not totally scared of humans. they’re just looking for hand-outs,chickens,cats, the birds you feed in your feeders.it’s amazing how a small number of wolves in ID(@650) is causing such a life crisis. be glad your one the few to say you live with wolves.get out of your hunt to kill ego and realize why you SHOULD want to hunt- to provide for your family

• 29. Amused  |  April 8th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

  Wolves will always be in the way of proper management. They are no better the poachers that cannot be prosecuted. Killing just for the sport. Game populations are at a high because we killed them of before, as we should do now. The outdoors is the “wests” play ground, would you want a rabid dog living in your park? We don’t and its our park.

• 30. jake  |  April 8th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

  No we shouldent be proud to have wolves in idaho, ya its cool for a little bit but its gotten out of hand there are way to many in idaho and the number 650 isnt a correct number thats just an estimate i know theres more than that. they need to start the hunt much earlier

• 31. SJ  |  April 10th, 2007 at 9:27 am

  While there have been attacks on humans by wolves in the past. The original statment is “There are no know attacks on humans by HEALTHY wolves on record” While there have been attacks in the past it is almost allways 1 wolf (which is s sign something is wrong) by it’s self that attacks a human. Will they attack a human if they are not sick yes. Under the right circumstances a tree squirle will attack and could kill you if you back it in a corner. Will a healthy wolf attack if it has an option to escape NO! I am no wolf hugger but I am one who is fair and it does not matter what you say there is no reason you can give that would make it right to just have an “Open Season” on wolves. They are hunters who really don’t like humans and will run at the first chance to get away from a human. We are hunters as well…. and every so often one of us go bad and kill someone for no reason. Should we have an open season on our own species? That what some are wanting to do to wolves.

• 32. Sdepo  |  April 11th, 2007 at 2:09 pm

  This site should explain most of the wolf questions, they don’t just kill the sick and weak, in fact they don’t even kill or consume the weak.

  http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolves_and_hunting.html

• 33. L_A  |  April 11th, 2007 at 4:56 pm

  To #31:
  I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but did you actually read the article? Even though it’s obviously biased, it did say that wolves target and usually try to kill weak and old animals. I don’t understand why you said in your post that wolves don’t kill the weak. Besides that I wouldn’t believe anything I read in that article. Anybody who would say that wolf recovery is a tool to shut down hunting isn’t “looking into the heart of the wolf issue”.

  Btw, I’m not against hunting, and believe it or not I’m in favor of controlling wolf populations in the lower 48 states. But this so-called Abundant Wildlife Society encouraging the idea of getting rid of predators blew me away. It looks like they only want an abundance of certain types of wildlife.

• 34. Russ  |  April 17th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

  It is wrong to say wolves just kill the weak and the sick. They kill what ever they can catch which may happen to be the weak and the sick but they will take down any animal they can catch be it sick or healthy

• 35. Christina  |  April 20th, 2007 at 1:51 pm

  Last night I went to the last hearing on delisting the wolves in the Northern Rocky Mountain Region. The meeting was held in our local auditorium and it was packed full with, according to the Billings Gazette, over 600 people. I heard many people talk about the wolf depredation and the effect wolves were having on ungulates and livestock. We have many 2nd and 3rd generation ranchers in this area who are slowly losing the ability to make their ranches profitable as the wolves attack and kill their livestock. Many ranchers brought pictures of the attacked livestock. All of the pictures were very, very graphic. Most of the animals had been gutted and left. They were found barely alive by the ranchers. For those who think that wolves do not kill for sport, I encourage you to find a rancher in Northern Wyoming and ask him to show you the pictures, or better yet, the proof in person. There have been some who have watched helplessly as the wolves killed thier livestock. We have wolves less than 5 miles from our door steps in my town. In Meeteetse, Wyoming they have wolves literally on their porches.

  There have been many documented cases of wolf attacks on humans in the last hundred and more years. These attacks have occurred all over the world where wolves live. As the wolf population grows and their natural prey (elk, moose, & deer) decline in numbers, people will find themselves more and more often in contact with these wolves. Attacks and fatalities will become more and more common.

  The Civil War was fought over State’s rights and human rights. We are losing that war now as ranchers lose the ability to use the land they own for their own purpose. For those who think that we should move out of the area and let the wolves inhabit it, take a look in your own yard. What animals inhabited that space before your subdivision was built? What birds lived in the trees that were the forest where your townhouses now stand? We are the highest predator on the food chain. We must, MUST, protect OUR habitat.

  I support delisting the gray wolf in the Northern Rocky Mountain Region and everywhere else in the Untied States. I don’t believe that the wolves need to be eradicated, however I do think that control and management is the only opportunity we have to allow the wolves to continue to be a part of the ecosystem without endangering ourselves.

• 36. Laura  |  April 20th, 2007 at 5:31 pm

  The same thing is happening down here Christina. We are in some serious trouble but since it isn’t popular to speak out against the mismanagement of this predator we rural people are the only folks to suffer the consequences.
  We are trying to get folks like you to help with sightings and accounts and blogs like this one are so essential to getting the truth out since the mainstream media don’t believe wolf management is PC.
  I am going to cross link this blog to our blog at….
  www.wolfcrossing.org

• 37. Jessica  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:43 am

  I don’t think we should have an open season on wolves. Their numbers are dwindling, and while it’s very heart breaking to hear stories about the alleged attacks, I don’t think that they should have a hunting season for them when they barely have enough numbers to keep themselves from going extinct.

• 38. Eric  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:19 pm

  ok look ill be straigh forword with you. i think that we should have a hunting season for wolfs because they are causing more troble then you think. like people are geting attacked livestock is geting killed from packs of wolfs. and the population of other animals are dwindaling like deer and elk because the wolfs that they put in are not killing jsut to eat but more for the sport. like if u look at the information on the decrease of other animals sence the reintoroduction you would see that all were doing is cause a lot of problems instead of solving them.

• 39. Kristen  |  May 16th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

  I think that there should be a season on them. there are to many and they are a attacking too many animals. The government would spend less money, when they give to people that animals attacked by wolves. If they would just open a season on them they would make more money then having to send it. i am a bear hunter and i ahve to agree that there is too many attacks. we need to get rid of some. how many have came in the past year? too many to count. that is what i think should happen. but the DNR have to decide. But thunk hard about they kill lots of animals and you would just be paying them back for the damage they have done.

• 40. Brian in IDAHO  |  May 17th, 2007 at 5:48 pm

  I feel calling wolves endangered is silly! Sure the lower 48 isn,t flooded with them(yet), but Canada and Alaska have more than enough to keep a healthy breeding population.What is still needed is checks and balances with any program.If the goverment wants to play God,they better have a plan when the stuff hits the fan.The Canadian Gray Wolf is hurting commerce and endangering public saftey.We must be able to control populations at state levels.As for the folkes who say they were here first so were the dinosaures,but you can blame that on Idaho natives if it helps you sleep better! Land of the free,I don,t think so!!!!!!!!!!!

• 41. Kristy  |  May 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pm

  Okay…wolves are still on the endangered species list because Idaho, and some other states, can’t come up with a sensible program for managing wolves. Until someone introduces a plan that doesn’t involve reducing their numbers to the absolute minimum, they’re probably going to stay on the endangered species list even though there are more than enough for the population to be considered healthy. By the way, this was a lone wolf that attacked all these people. And it was hurt. That’s not typical wolf behavior. I’m not against hunting, but one of the consequences of wolf hunting may be that it will create more lone wolves. Deaths of pack members, especially alphas, can cause wolves to either leave the pack or be cast out. Hunting isn’t exactly the great idea that a lot of people think it is.

  And why do people keep referring to the dinosaurs? I still don’t understand that….

• 42. Kristen  |  May 18th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

  ok… i just read through all of the comments….people saying that we should move out cause they were here first… that is the dumbest idea EVER!!! Somebody said asked where would you live??? that is a great question??? where would we all live???
  there are wolves all over… There might not be 1000 of wolves every place but there is some everywhere….. I was also reading about “wolf-huggers”… might i ask what the definition is to that????
  im saying that wolves should be takin off the endangered list…. they SHOULD be a season on them…. i don’t understand why people don’t like hunting…. or trust hunters… that is what it said in one of the comments…. but anyway…
  People saying that wolves only attack sick/injured/ and so on… well i am a freshman and we have to write these papers in english about something you agree on or disagree….. i am doing wolves…and i disagree that there shouldnt be a season on them…also i disagree that they should be on the endangered list….i was researching on the computor and i looked up wolf attacks…. there were so many…. and they could attack anything or anyone at anytime….
  oh yeah and then the comment about the weiner dogs getting attacked…. and the people said you would have went to jail if you would have shot it…. well the is bull crap… cause if they dont want them to attack people or animals then they should have a season on them to get the population down…… i would have never called….
  but i think there should be a season on them….it is strongly what i think but everybody has their oppions….. the last thing i would like to say is about one of the comments with the pictures that farmers show of their animals getting killed….. well in there it said that people wouldnt know…. i mean those people have wolves 5 miles from them….. i have wolves where i live and every year there gets to be more and more…. i dont think a person can really say that they dont or do like them until you have them living by you or around you….. I know for a fact that people saying oh there shouldnt be a season or that they are cute, and i would like to save them…. well i dont think you would be saying those things if they attacked one of your animals or even you… so dont disagree with the people saying they dont like wolves cause they probably have a reason…. but why do you like them so much???? i dont like wolves cause i know a bunch of people who dogs have been attacked and even one of my own…i have seen wolves also and heard them while bear hunting… so i think there should be a season on them…
  the population is just getting out of control and the other animal population is going down…..so just think about it for a second….ask yourself why do you like wolves and why dont you like wolves and see which one you have more things on….. that is what i think i will stick my oppion….

• 43. wyoming native  |  May 23rd, 2007 at 9:11 pm

  wyoming is standing there ground on its rights to manage its own states animals, the feds are just reappealing and prolonging the inevitable. we will hunt wolves in wyoming and they will be classified as a predator (coyote) . the feds will hold out until the numbers are rediculous and the ranchers will be forced to shoot on sight or loose there livlihood, the price of beef will sky rocket, then the real hunters who still put meat on the table will be also forced to shoot on sight. Not until we are forced run this state for the people by the people will we realize what a mistake we have made, but we will fix it again…

• 44. Katie  |  June 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 am

  in these attacks they do not say the health of the wolf and people forget that they may be crossing into the wolfs marked territory, then it is the wolfs wild instuition that you are a preditor to his pack and then will attack you. So this shows that it is also the falt of humans too.

• 45. teacher, not hunter or hugger  |  June 12th, 2007 at 10:41 pm

  Regardless of your opinion on the matter, a commentary should be drafted in a coherent manner if you want your thoughts to be read and valued. It’s refreshing to read an educated, well thought out argument with something new to consider. Marie (#17), Purist (#24), and Christina (#34) were interesting to read and provided good points to consider.

• 46. Jason  |  August 28th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

  Folks just be smart. Study self defense tactics. Follow the rules. If your going to be in an area with a wolf population carry some form of weapon. Be aware. When I go camping, with family or friends, I carry two weapons everywhere I go. A authentic viking balanced throwing axe and a larger bearded axe that hangs from a frog at my waist. I can kill anything that attacks me with either weapon and save my life and the lives of my friends. I don’t believe in guns so i use these implements. I love nature and being out there, but the truth is nature is a broad term that doesn’t concern itself with you. It doesnt matter if your old and sick or young and powerful. A hungry predator is going to attack you if your vulnerable. Don’t be vulnerable. The end.

• 47. SoloCam  |  September 23rd, 2007 at 7:36 am

  Wow………. It was pretty crazy reading all the blogs on this subject. One thing that I didn’t see as I scanned alot of these blogs was the fact that when the subject first arose in my great state of Idaho about the reintroduction of wolves, we were told that they were going to reintroduce the native wolf not Canadian greys. I for one have seen what it has done to our existing wildlife and have had many heated discussions with people who believe the reintroduction was a great thing. I truly believe that our governing parties need to get off the fence on the subject of controlling these wolves, before people really start taking matters into their own hands. Most would agree that individuals working for either the Fish and Game or Forest Service would have pretty good insight as to what the wolves have done for our great state and I haven’t met one yet who believes that it is a good thing.

• 48. Frank N  |  October 11th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

  Headlines (look ‘em up…I did):
  “Deer are charging at people, causing injury and even death”
  “A deer goes buck wild on a hunter.”
  “A rash of attacks by male deer has prompted California wildlife officials to warn people”
  “Deer Attacks Hunter. NOW you can call it a sport”
  “Sheriff’s deputies said the man was trying to feed the deer when he was attacked.”
  “video of a deer attacking a hunter”
  “SoCal man dies of injuries suffered in deer attack”
  “A woman who was among those injured in a series of deer attacks”
  “A student who was attacked by deer at Southern Illinois University”
  “A park ranger gets his a*s beat by a deer”
  “deer attack a guy with a gun”
  “deer attacks a hunter”
  “Deer Attack Three”
  “DEER ATTACKS, KILLS MAN”
  “A man was found dead Sunday after apparently being attacked by a deer ”
  “deer goes nutty and attacks a hunter”
  These are just a few. My search engine had over 200,000 entries under “deer attacks”.
  WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE?

  “There is a dog bite epidemic in the United States. There are almost 5 million victims annually — about 2% of the entire population. 800,000 need medical attention. 1,000 per day need treatment in hospital emergency rooms. Approximately 26 die per year. Most of the victims who receive medical attention are children, half of whom are bitten in the face. Dog bite losses exceed $1 billion per year, with over $300 million paid by insurance.”
  Read an interesting story the other day about a rancher who was complaining about wolves killing his sheep. They investigated and discovered that it was HIS OWN SHEEPDOG!
  WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE?

  Yet you have to go to another country (Canada) to find an obscure story or two about wolf attacks. This story about a lone wolf (probably sick, injured or habituated by people feeding it on the beach) only illustrates what most folks with common sense already know: ANY ANIMAL, WILD OR DOMESTIC, can potentially be dangerous under the right (or wrong) circumstances.
  I hike in wolf country all the time, and see them frequently. I have been threatened several times by elk and moose, yet EVERY time the wolves have run away….even once when I inadvertently approached an active den.
  What about people injured every year by farm animals…..look it up.
  Wolves aren’t demons; they aren’t saints; they are just another animal.
  Thanks for letting me comment.

• 49. Nate  |  October 13th, 2007 at 7:59 pm

  I find it very interesting to know where all of these people live who love wolves and think they aren’t a problem, and those who hate wolves and think they are problem. I for one think it is very funny to hear people say they want “to save the wolves” Well I have news, they don’t need to be saved, they are flat out thriving. Talking to a wolf biologist that is from Alaska, who now works in Wyoming, he says we have opened Pandora’s box by bringing the wolves back. To only maintain the numbers of wolves at where they are now, we would have to kill 75% of the population…That is just to keep the numbers from growing. I just think the whole thing was not thought out enough. If you decide to leave a thought, tell where you live (state) I live in Utah, and have seen a female and two pups on the south slope of the Uintahs. So get ready Utah…this battle is coming to our town!!!

• 50. Frank N  |  October 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

  Just for the record, I live in Montana. Have seen wolves many times while hiking near here (every time they run away the moment they see me), and have even seen them about two hundred yards from my house passing through the pasture. Rather than gather the grandkids up and hide them in the house, I sent them out with a camera.
  Regarding wolves needing protection: if a small population (of men) on horse back carrying Winchesters could totally wipe out a population of wolves a hundred times larger than what we have today, what makes you think that it would be so hard to do today with helicopters, radio collars and high powered rifles?
  It is well documented that wolf populations are self limiting, as has been seen on Isle Royale (moose decline…wolves decline..moose rebound…wolves rebound; including the current cycle) and in Yellowstone where, after a decade of growth, the population actually declined a couple years ago as the elk population dropped and wolves began doing battle for prime territory. Wolves and their prey existed for a million years before man ever arrived on the scene, and they are BOTH still here.

• 51. Frank N  |  October 16th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  Regarding predation: despite the fact that wolf numbers continue to grow, elk (their primary prey) populations are at record levels in the three Northern Rockies states (Idaho, Montana and Wyoming); well above objectives set by state wildlife managers in most zones.
  Wyoming (for example) cattle ranchers lost 4000 animals to predators last year, only 800 of which were to wolves. At least some of the loss to wolves was compensated by Defenders of Wildlife. At least some of the non wolf losses were reimbursed by the State of Wyoming. The total loss in dollars to predators was @$1,800,000. (interestingly enough, Wyoming’s plan to “control” wolves (alone) will cost over 2 million…..more than the total loss TO ALL PREDATION in Wyoming for 2006!
  Meantime, they lost 39,000 animals (@$25,300,000) to non predator causes; including: died during calving, 8100 animals; and: died due to inclement weather, 8700 animals. These two causes alone amount to over four times the TOTAL loss to ALL predation. (Source: United States Dept. of Agriculture 2006 Wyoming figures). Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe any of these are compensated.
  I really don’t believe that wolf predation is going to drive anyone out of business.

• 52. me_me  |  November 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pm

  ok, so wolves do injure and kill people. It’s just another animal killing animal thing. i mean really, think of all the animals we kill. i dont understand the way humans think. its like we have a right to kill everything in sight but when something turns around and bites us back we go all nuts. i just dont get it.

  there should not be a season for killing wolves.
  there should be a season for killing people.

• 53. chris  |  December 23rd, 2007 at 8:27 am

  i cannot truly believe what i have read here with all these comments and people making statementd without researching and spending time looking for the facts. i live in upper michigan which reintroduced wolves, if you are looking for info go to state of michigan.org and follow the links to the DNR wolf delisting report which is available for public viewing or watch cnn headlines news of 12-23-07 and explain the wolves attacking women out jogging, here in upper michigan its only a matter of time before the wolf eats themselves out house and home, fact they do kill for hunger but also sport leaving a rotting carcass, fact wolf have attacked and killed in north america to the tune of 80 recorded 12 were rabid animals but out of the total 30% were due to co-habitation, pretty hard not to do when you live in the country, this still leaves apx 40 attacks with no known reason. like any animal if left unregulated, unchecked, and not managed will overpopulate, decimate its own food supply and then causing the crash of their kind. hunters who spend millions annually on liscense sales are the only true provider for many state wildlife agencies and with destruction of herds by wolves as documented on many web sites some very grafically should show you that this species is an extremely dangerous animal that is a hunter with no other predator higher than MAN!! who also has the right to exist and defend his property and life.
  in final view i have watched wolves take down deer for fun and leave an animal crippled to die only to train young wolves.
  I have watched the deer hunting of the upper peninsula heading in a great decline due to overpopulation of the wolves which is now creating an economic problem not only for our local business’s but to state DNR coffers. we got rid of the wolves along time ago because they are what they are, Atop level predator that if not controlled will be a problem for our children, our pets,our lives stock and maybe our very own lives, please look to the facts and then pass judgement on this extremely dangerous animal that our own government is reintroducing with chilling ability’s and when he movesinto your neighorhood you might want look over your shoulder more often like i have anytime tha i’m in the woods, been treed before it will happen again but thats why I carry a 44 mag now

• 54. krissy  |  January 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

  we just bought a home on the outskirts of the city and we heard wolves howling at night. Thought it was neat until the other day I saw one in the back yd. I have two dogs and now fear for them when I let them out to go to the bathroom. I was concerned and looked up how to get rid of wolves on the internet just for fun, and now see all these comments on attacks by the wolves. Is there someone who knows how to get rid of them.? Who can I call to help relocate them if possible.?

  There is a chicken farm next door and I’m sure they are getting their fill from there. I hear them every night I go to bed and they howl so much i’m sure there is at least 10 + of them about the woods in my back 10 acre yard. Pls. help, I have kids that visit that say they saw blood droplets out back in the snow. What can I do to scare them off?
  For the people who love wolves, come and get them. I don’t want them in my back yard…………….Krissy…………

• 55. ryan  |  February 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

  i think we should have a wolf season

• 56. sarah  |  February 12th, 2008 at 1:42 am

  wow, i didnt read all the comments… but i agree with #7, if you are worried about wolf attacks then you have it all wrong, worry about car crashes or getting shot, SOMETHING anything other than wolf attacks!!!!!!!!

  im 14 and reading “never cry wolf” in school and alot of you are gonna completely skip past my comment now but I can tell you that the wolves are beings too and dont deserve to be killed HEARTLESSLY, they have just as much right to live as you do, they wern’t put on this earth to hurt you and attack your kids.

  think about what you are saying, i’ve encountered a wolf while camping and i survived!!!!!

  please, im not asking you to worship them but at least respect the wolves

• 57. Nancy  |  February 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

  Enjoy your input Frank N. I too live in Montana and agree that wolves aren’t going to drive cattlemen out of business. Many ranchers are their own worst enemies. Countless times I’ve seen dead cattle rotting in fields, I’ve seen dead calves dumped on piles during calving season. If wolves develop a taste for beef, who’s at fault? When their fences are in poor condition or they don’t monitor their herds regularly and predators take advantage of that, who’s at fault? Taxpayers in this country fork over millions for predator control so ranchers can have a product for market. (matter of fact the helicopters should be up in the air anytime now shooting coyotes what with calving season just around the corner) A joke since studies show coyotes will often triple their birthrate when their numbers go down.
  Montana is one of the last best places in this country for wilderness and wildlife but empty land around me and in alot of the state is being snatched up developed.
  I think humans need to stand back and take a good look what we are doing as a species about over population before we play God with other species…………

• 58. Nancy  |  February 26th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

  Had to add to my previous post. Ran across the comments here while researching wolves and their comeback. I was glad to see that so many people have an interest and an opinion whe it comes wolves - both positive and negative - hope this thread will continue. I believe many humans are to often ignorant of other specie’s needs or place here in this world. We don’t realize we are just a small part of this complex planet all species here call home. Humans are the most arrogant of species out there because of our preceived intelligence but fail to realize there is intelligence in all species. If you question that please rent or buy the Planet Earth Series ( blew my mind) and spend some time connecting to the rest of life on this planet……….

• 59. Rick  |  February 27th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

  So I’m not any more anti/pro wolf than I am anti/pro deer, squirrell, etc. As a man of only 30 years, I lived just fine before wolf reintroduction. I assume there was a reason my great grandpas generation wiped them out. I don’t mean that its right, but it wasn’t either when the Native Americans got “wiped out” from their territory. As a hunter, I’d just as soon be able to shoot wolves like coyotes, because regardless what anyone says , I have seen FIRSTHAND wolf kills where the meat was left to waste and rot, with very little eatin. They are just a oversized coyote, with no fear for anything. They are just as “cocky” as us. As a taxpayer that lives in the mountains…(not to far from where not even a week ago a wolf killed a german shepard, in Centerville, Idaho….check ktvb.com) I have just learned to take precautions and live with them. My biggest problem will be if we don’t continue to manage them after starting to. Hopefully season will open on them way before Fish and Game has to come out and say they made a HUGE mistake.

• 60. Rick  |  February 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

  http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2006/07/08/one-heck-of-a-wolf-story/

  Hopefully I posted this link right. This is not a story intended to pull at the heart strings of either side…..but just to say it does happen, and this guy makes an excellent, educated point, even though his emotions could of spoke for him……the problem is REAL

• 61. Nancy  |  February 29th, 2008 at 8:07 am

  I would imagine a wolf kill left to rot is no more disgusting then the hunter who removes the trophy head and leaves the body to rot. Happens alot around here. Or it can’t be any more disguesting than the fact that for almost every animal shot during hunting season, atleast one is left wounded and suffers a slow death.
  Wolves became a problem in this part of the country over a century ago when humans destroyed alot of their food source - buffalo, elk, deer - and like the Native American’s removal, greed was the motivation, land and more land.

  Its interesting that so much of the disagreement has to do with what wolves will do to the populations of elk & deer. (but there are quite a few packs of wolves in Yellowstone and the populations have remained stable) so to me, the real issue is wolves will once again compete with humans. Which may make elk & deer alot more wary unlike the shooting galleries we have around here where guides w/ their hunters run up and down the roads in their heated vehicles looking for herds of elk or deer in the pastures. The elk are shot at and harassed for 6-8 weeks and then most migrate out of the area, many underweight, with months of winter ahead of them. BUT, its good for the economy I hear!

• 62. rick  |  February 29th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  I liked the comment about only the weak and sick, I guess most of the tree or wolf huggers have never seen a bull elk after the rut Because they arent in such good shape. Also when everybodys making the comments about fixxing the past please let me know how you managed to turn the clock back, Last time I looked in the back country there was a lot more acess either by logging roads or the fancy snow machines that will go anywhere We dont want to see things extinct but you cant bring the past back so let the high paid and sometimes not, boilogist make the decessions not someones emotions, thats were we get ourselves in trouble

• 63. rick  |  February 29th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

  I liked the comment about only the weak and sick, I guess most of the tree or wolf huggers have never seen a bull elk after the rut Because they arent in such good shape. Also when everybodys making the comments about fixxing the past please let me know how you managed to turn the clock back, Last time I looked in the back country there was a lot more acess either by logging roads or the fancy snow machines that will go anywhere We dont want to see things extinct but you cant bring the past back so let the high paid and sometimes not, boilogist make the decessions not someones emotions, thats were we get ourselves in trouble Oh and by the way its mostly money from hunters which pay the biologists

• 64. Seth  |  March 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 am

  People….
  If you have man in the mix, you must not reintroduce predators where they need not be, we are the top of the chain and are capable of managment effectively ourselves.
  These anikmals have been killing animals just for the fun of it.
  I have seen it first hand, these animals are taking elk herds down to the last calf. Deer are totally non-existant in areas which I hunt in Idaho and Montana. I as a sportsman am all for management, bu this is getting rediculous. I am all for an open season on these animals, and do not support wolf huggers points of view, we have done just fine with these animals being in Yellowstone only, and believe they should be there, no where else.

  -Concerned sportsman

• 65. Moe  |  March 4th, 2008 at 11:49 am

  All life is sacred.

• 66. Art  |  March 4th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

  All of those for or against wolf reintroduction need to see what’s really going on in Idaho. See: www.saveourelk.com
  If that doesn’t convince people there is a problem then nothing ever will.

• 67. jim williams  |  March 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

  Fortunately, the Mexican Wolf reintro hasn’t gained a solid hold yet, and hopefully my state of NM along with AZ will open up to the possibility that having a bunch of wolves is not such a great idea. I don’t believe these southern wolves would have as negative an impact on their respective big game prey populations as their northern counterparts, as the region of their occupation has relatively mild winters, reducing the vulnerablility of big ungulates and the resulting probability of wolves killing for sport animals comprimised by deep snow or late winter fragility. However, I can’t see how having a bunch of Canis Lupus around is going to help anything. Reduction of ungulate wildlife populations=reduction of hunting opportunity=reduction of precious dollars toward conservation and wildlife resource management= BAD NEWS FOR EVERYONE!!!! Nevermind the wolf/stockmman conflicts, the thousands of dollars spent catching and relocating problem wolves, and increased risk to rural human/pet life by way having wolves in a given proximity. The amount of ignorance and lack of foresight expressed by 95% of the comments posted here by BOTH wolfo- philes and phobes is astounding. I know people get emotional and lose rationale, but it seems many here had very little to start with. Step away and look at the larger, projected view. Ask YOURSELVES tough questions and put some damned effort into coming up with a quality solution and start sharing your ideas with your state’s Game Commission. Quit your idle moaning and get out there and do something! You could start by educating yourselves continuously so your words hold gravity, merit and relevance, instead of all that hot air your kind is so fond of spewing. Get on it.

• 68. Nancy  |  March 4th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

  I Love The Internet!! Do your homework folks! “Wolf huggers'’ have no problem identifying sites that educate others when it comes to trying to balance an ecosystem in what little areas are left in this country that can still be called ecosystems. (Can’t say that about the site in the last post) I could be wrong, but I’d be willing to bet the site is more interested in saving elk so humans can kill them…….

  And its sad Seth that you think man is the top of the food chain and should be allowed to “manage” other forms of life. Can recall atleast 3 different occasions here where hunters gleefully gathered, highways allow that now (in the heat of the moment) and blew away a good part of a herd of elk. The word poach does not apply to predators with 4 legs - just man and that happens all the time in these parts because trophy heads and antlers are so highly sought after.

  I’m not a “wolf hugger” I’m just painfully aware of what little is left of widlerness out there and mankind’s sorry attempts to “manage” what did quite well before we decided we were alot more important in the scheme of things………

• 69. idbigboy  |  March 5th, 2008 at 2:35 am

  I am entertained by the fact that these species are listed as endangered. The wolves are from Canada were last time I checked had an abundance. I like how we classify them as “Rocky Mountain”. I would think that all the enviros out there would know the consequences of introducing a non-native species to an environment. The Grays are far from the lesser Timber and Red wolves and our wildlife is paying the price. The only thing humans are good at is messing with nature and making things worse. I feel sorry for our wildlife here in Idaho.

• 70. Moe  |  March 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

  As a child, i went hunting with my dad. Growing up poor on eastern Long Island allowed us to hunt for small game to have some meat on the table. We never hunted for sport. My friends and neighbors hunt and claim they eat the meat. Most have two full freezers of food. Its the sport; the sport to kill.
  I am of no religious persuasion but am always moved by the energy and spirtuality that I experience with the wilderness and wildlife at my side.

• 71. Nancy  |  March 5th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

  Less than 7% of this country “hunts” Is it really about introducing non-native predators ( wolves, who were already working their way back to this area from Canada) or what little areas are left to “hunt” regardless of whether your a wolf or a human.
  The difference? Wolves hunt to exist - nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag and hang (that head in the livingroom which does nothing other than gather dust?) although a few actually hunt to supplement the grocery bill, but I can count them on one hand when hunting season comes around here.

  http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0107/p03s01-ussc.html

  Please forgive me for being so direct, JW to the south, its not a matter of finding solutions, to many of us are way to concerned about whether our cells phones work or how much time we can stuff into a day. Its a matter of what humans continue to take away from every other species out there. We seem to think our very existance is the only thing that matters.
  Biggest death rate in deer around here? The roads, got to get them paved and while we enjoy the smooth surfaces and now higher speeds that travel affords us, the wildlife can’t get off them quick enough anymore…….I’ve never seen elk dead on the roads here, hit by cars, but I can count 2 in the last couple of months. Humans keep taking away but spend little time making an effort to give back to what we’ve taken away. Thats my beef and I’m sticking to it!!!!

• 72. Rick in Idaho  |  March 7th, 2008 at 9:37 am

  “nine times out of ten, man hunts to brag……” is a “racist” opinion based on your own feeling. I’m not being mean, but have some respect for the hunters that FEED THEIR FAMILY. I personally don’t know 1 person that hunts just to brag, or hang things. I’m not saying these people don’t exist, but I think 9 out of ten is a very dramatic profile. Do I hang dead animals on the wall? You bet……and my kids also hang their drawings on the refrigerator, because maybe they are proud of the hard work and the accomplishment of something. Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see?? I don’t want to pick at anyone, because it goes on forever and the point of the topic gets off track…..there are obviously different people here with different lifestyles that are going to produce different “statistics,” so lets not pick at who we are and make silly guesses about the other. Poster #62, please add something to your name next time you post so people don’t think you are me.
  By the way, wolf season will open up….hopefully by this fall, and yes I will shoot one. I might even hang it on my wall.

• 73. Nancy  |  March 7th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

  And not to ignore your question Rick :
  Ever been proud of something enough you displayed it for everyone to see??
  Yes I’ve got lots of prints, pictures and some original paintings from all aspects of life on my walls, I’m proud to display them but no heads or hides, I can’t relate to the need to display something dead especially when it was so much more vibrant alive.

• 74. idbigboy  |  March 14th, 2008 at 12:04 am

  Nancy wolves do not just kill to survive or exist they kill for sport just like some humans do. You may want to check out saveourelk.com this is a non-native species that has been introduced which is an eco nightmare.

• 75. Nancy  |  March 14th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

  Eco nightmare to whom? The site you make reference to idbigboy (saveourelk) points out the “dangers” of wolves but neglects to point out the fact that they want to “save” the elk so humans can kill them. Humans can kill elk - wolves can’t. How do you rationalize that?

  Non-native? Wolves whether they are called Timber or Grey - more native than you or I. They unfortunately couldn’t avoid the traps, poisons and bounties, close to a hundred years ago and went the way of to many other species that got in the way of humans. Now they are back, I don’t have a problem with it (and I live where they live) We have mountain lion around and the occasional grizzly too. There are so few wild places left, I’d like to think humans are intelligent enough to realize that and find a workable solution that benefits all wildlife.

• 76. John C.  |  March 17th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

  A “workable solution” would be for man to manage all the populations. The answer isn’t to let the wolves populate to the point where they decimate the other populations but I don’t have a problem with managing the species size. Where I live if the whitetail weren’t managed by us then it would be foolish to think our ecosystem would be in a healthy state. By no means necessary does our government have anything of this nature figured out but it’s hard to solve any problem with hsus and peta breathing down any government officials neck when talks of population manage are uttered. The wolves have a right just as we do and the bears and cougars but we have just as much of a right to manage a population so situations like this are few and far between.

• 77. idbigboy  |  March 18th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

  The humans that I hunt with do not kill to just kill. A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks. I wouldn’t have much of an issue with this if it was the native wolf that was introduced back. This is a totally different species. It would be like introducing a piranha into a lake to replace all the bass that were caught. I don’t have any issues with any native predator they are needed and beautiful. The most ironic thing is you living were “they live” is probably taking up precious winter ranging and habitat. A lot of the “ecos” in Boise have huge houses that take up almost all of the winter ranges in the valley. Don’t worry because they will leave 10% for the wildlife.

• 78. Rick in Idaho  |  March 20th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

  John C. nicely put. Probably one of the most smartest things said so far, including my own ranting…ha ha. It is a valuable point for continued management, especially on ANYTHING we start to manage in the first place. While I never will agree with Fish and Game about how many wolves we had (supposedly) before the reintroduction, I am happy to see them trying to put together plans to keep the wolves in check. I only hope that PETA, etc. can see past their own emotions enough to realize that there IS a compromise fit for the environment and wolves…..MANAGEMENT
  Nancy, I hope you didn’t feel I was attacking you. I didn’t mean for you to answer my question, and I know you feel the same pride in the things you display as I do. Thank you for your respect, and like they say “its just different strokes for different folks.”

• 79. Nancy  |  March 28th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

  No Rick, didn’t feel attacked by your comments. That is what this forum is all about - the difference in opinions when it comes to “live & let live” and respecting each person’s opinion. And with that said, idbigboy you said:
  “A wolf kills for fun and leaves the carcass to the maggots. A wolf will kill all the sheep in the flock just for kicks”
  Are you aware that dogs (fido, man’s best friend) kill far more livestock in this country than wolves and they usually do it for fun or just because they are bored and running loose?
  No public outcry about that fact.
  I am not against a rancher protecting his livestock, I am against declaring an open season on an animal that by its re-introduction, is bringing back a balance in nature that has been missing because of man’s ignorance.

• 80. a.j. hopkin  |  April 20th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  i say wolf season. my friend just lost his best hound to wolves and the feds said he couldn’t shoot it cause it was on public …

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