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• 1. scott danish  |  April 13th, 2007 at 3:37 pm

  kill it. I would tend to beleive the bear would attack a human again.

• 2. Idaho Man Attacked by Gri&hellip  |  April 13th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

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• 3. phil begay  |  April 16th, 2007 at 7:19 am

  I would say kill it too. the bear got the taste of human blood. it will attack again.

• 4. Preston Bennett  |  April 16th, 2007 at 9:46 am

  that bear shoundn’t be killed because off the dead moose come on think about

• 5. Tony Moralez NM- Hunter  |  April 16th, 2007 at 10:56 am

  I don’t think the bear needs to be killed, but relocated into a remote location far fom any human. Living in grizzly country Im sure they are aware of the dangers that can happern. That griz can’t just go down to burger king and order a whopper. He was enjoying, and protecting a hard earned meal. Do you like to be bothered after a hard days work, much less during supper. I did’t think so!

• 6. Joe  |  April 16th, 2007 at 2:17 pm

  Local news reports this morning that they killed it over the weekend.

• 7. L_A  |  April 16th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  Are they sure which bear it was that attacked the man? Because capturing and relocating it or killing even it won’t do any good if they don’t get the right bear. It sounds like they’re not even entirely sure that it was a grizzly.

• 8. L_A  |  April 16th, 2007 at 5:26 pm

  Oh I see now that they killed it. I hope they at least got the right bear.

• 9. gregg franks  |  April 16th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

  what a shame. most of us work all year to go to moose country for a week………………..some feel they have to live in it. I say………you want to live with the moose and bears……….then you implicitly accept the inherent danger……….and the flying lead during hunting season.

• 10. MPJ tx  |  April 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

  I don`t understand how some people can put human life and animal life on the same level. if an animal attacks a human the animal should be killed regardless if it was acting on instinct.

• 11. muley  |  April 18th, 2007 at 9:50 am

  glad they killed it. i like bears and live around them, but the ones that are that aggressive should be dealt with. their are plenty of grizzlies around so i dont think it matters to kill a few to protect people.

• 12. scott danish  |  April 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pm

  I think idaho/montana/wyoming should have public on call draw kill tags, simular to the d.o.w. stray wyoming bison permits for troubled bears, wolves and lions for situations like this. though rare, when the decision is made to destroy an animal it instead should be harvested by a hunter.

• 13. TexasRD  |  April 21st, 2007 at 8:54 am

  if a bear or anything attacks a human i say kill it unless the human was provoking it

• 14. KMART  |  April 24th, 2007 at 2:54 pm

  I agree with scott get rid of the bear because who knows whats its next victim could be it might be someones children!!

• 15. Amy Acquafondata  |  April 26th, 2007 at 1:48 am

  Is there any evidence that bears that attack a human that suprises them will automatically hunt humans? Any wild animal will attack if suprised enough, especially if near a meal or its young. That doesn’t mean it will kill others. I understand that destroying the animal is probably the safest bet, all around, but it is still a little sad.

• 16. Tony  |  April 30th, 2007 at 1:47 am

  He was the only grizz in the area with a tag, yes they are sure they killed the right one.

• 17. chase  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 am

  kill it, if it attacks once it will do it againg

• 18. Grizzly-dog  |  May 4th, 2007 at 10:51 pm

  After spending the greater part of 23 years in grizzly country, and afer being bluff charged and stalked by a few of these fine creatures myself in Tom Minor Basin, by Yellowstone Park. The effects of a griz that has associated with humans, be it an attack or simply an interest in what a human is up to in its home, inevetably leads to a conflict or a mauling in my experience. I agree with Scott Danish that this is a problem that can and should be handled by the hunter not the game official. The simple act of hunting the griz will put the fear of man back into them, and reduce what is an evergrowing problem. The human factor with the new “mansons on the mountain” that most wealthy people seem to need nowadays will continue to be a major factor in the deaths of grizzlies and unless curtailed will probably be the demise of many other predators that call the mountains home. Unfortunatly many wise men and women still cannot come up with a win/win scenario for wildlife and human interaction. Just my two cents

• 19. larry peterson  |  May 5th, 2007 at 11:14 am

  I am glad they killed that particular bear. Once they taste human, they know that there is an easy meal all over the place. Ask yourself, how would you feel if it was you or one of your loved ones?
  These bears are coming back at an increasing rate and the population should be contolled by some kind of management program. We have already seen what is happening with the wolf.
  There will undoubtedly be more encounters. As for myself, anytime I go into the woods I take a big gun with me.

• 20. david  |  May 9th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

  i have had 5 surgeries from a bear attack in alaska. you would never know it today however. i have no physical problems at all. there are many people in this world who have no common sense. they will believe anything, or say anything if it can sound educated.

  i have no hard feelings with bears at all. if they don´t trouble me, then i certainly would not want harm to come to any one. anyone with half a brain would certainly know a bear needs to be killed if it has attacked. there is no reason to try to defend a bear over a food catch. the simple fact is it will attack. if its around a family or a humans it needs to be killed. only a fool would try to say that others need to live around a bear like that. it would be far different if it was them, or there family living there. there is only 1 reason that i would say a bear has a right to attack. if it is itself attacked.

  the bear attacks that really go on are far far more then you, or i ever hear about. the goverment wants to disarm the people, so they will have all the guns. the law abiding citizens will have none. the goverment, and criminals will have them. they do not want there to be any reason for americans to have guns, and the documented attacks that we hear of are few. the undocumented attacks that are never known to the public is far far greater then you may think.

  bears are attacking far more now also. it is a simple fact, that if they are so protected, they will simply loose there fear. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. these creatures communicate of course, and they know the chances of attacking humans. they start to understand when there is less reason to fear, then in the past. people, and families in the bush are the ones who know the truth. they will not say anything to anybody if there is a bear problem. they will simply kill it, to protect them, and there family. this is simple common sense.

  there are people with no common sense. for instance, you can have 2 pictures. 1 picture is the finest outdoor picture you could see, and the other picture is of a pile of dog crap. now if you take these to pictures to the artist experts, they will say that it is relative. 1 picture can be as nice as another. i know this because i had a gallery. and there are many others who will believe and say this kind of foolishness.

  thank you. david

• 21. Brad  |  May 9th, 2007 at 8:48 pm

  The only right a bear has to attack is if it itself is attacked? Carnivore: 1. An animal that eats flesh.
  2. A flesh eating mammal of the order Carnivora,
  comprising the dogs, cats, BEARS, seals and
  weasels.
  Omnivore: 1. A person who eats all kinds of food.
  2. An animal that feeds on both animal and
  vegetable substances.

  Now, if the fish and game could get all those happy bears into a attack/hunting education class, and maybe even sell them x amount of tags each year as to how often they can attack, and of course have them obey all other constitutional laws in our nation, or the nation that they inhabit, then yes, I would agree the only time they have the right to attack is when they are attacked, or if they have a permit of course. Yes, I understand you were attacked by a bear and have a lot more personal feeling toward the subject, but come on. They’re bears! That’s what they do.

• 22. larry peterson  |  May 15th, 2007 at 9:08 pm

  I recentely had a conversation with a barber that operates a real small local barber shop. Good old boy. Had a real nice mule deer rack on his wall. We got to talking and he told me about a trip he took to Alaska. He told me that all those stories you hear are not like what his hunting party experienced. He said that a grizzly saw their group of dogs and sleds from about 400 out. A single male. He said that as soon as that bear saw them he charged. They all grabbed their guns and prepared themselves. He said it happened real fast. The bear did not slow down at all and came on full speed and they started to shoot to protect themselves and their dogs. They weren’t sure if it saw the dogs as prey or what was happening. The bear took eight rounds before it went down. He said it was the most hair raising thing that had ever happened to him on a hunt. I asked him if they ate any of it ( I like to eat wild meat) and he said that they kept the meat and fed it to the dogs while they continued their hunt. None of them had a tag for grizzly. They were in a remote area and they protected themselves. What would you do? He told me that if you ever see one of those bears in the wild that you had better anticipate a confrontation and be prepared for such an encounter. Like I said before, any time I go into the woods I carry a big gun. I was followed by a mountain lion once when hunting in Kern County California on a solo hunt and happened to catch it in the act by pure chance when I stopped to take a break. It left the area when we made eye contact. A chilling experience. Anyone who goes into the woods without some form of protection should not be in the woods. At least take a dog so it can warn you or sacrifice itself so you can survive. Maybe. Larry Peterson, Bakersfield, Ca.

• 23. Walter  |  May 27th, 2007 at 11:10 pm

  I live in grizzly and black bear country. Just saw another grizzly today. My daughter and I walked up on a mature black 5 days ago. Two weeks ago I videoed a grizzly eating an elk - which it had killed. About 3 hours ago I sat waiting patiently for a grizzly to come to lunch on a road killed elk - no luck. So . …… shooting the grizzly was the best thing to do… without question. We live south of a national park where they catch and relocate problem bears - and occasionally place them in our back yard. These bears have problems of habituation and usually do not last too long around here. When you get back to your truck, after a couple of days hiking, the windshield is ripped out and the inside of your vehicle torn all apart, along with the vehicle beside you, with muddy grizzly tracks all over the hood and roof … well, you know it is not a local bear - most local bears have been hunted and have a little respect!! So …. did mention that shooting the bear was the best thing to do - without question.

• 24. john burns  |  June 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pm

  i think the bear should be moved to a remote place.maybe put a traking device on him to make sure he dosn’t come in contact with human again

• 25. SunDee  |  June 19th, 2007 at 1:22 pm

  Doesnt anyone realize that we live on a planet with other species. Things like this happen. It is very unfortunate but things like this happen. What makes us think that just because we are humans we rule the world? I live in bear country and I accept the risk. I am by no means saying this man did anything wrong, I am simply saying that these risks run when you live in bear country. We dont have the right to destroy and animal just because it did what its instincts tell is to do. I highly doubt it will ever attack again. It didnt “get a taste of blood, so it will come back for more.” Human blood probally tastes the same as elk blood. Bears are more afraid of us than we are of them. Killing this bear wont solve the problem of bear attacks.

• 26. JC  |  July 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 pm

  My thoughts . . . Once a bear has attacked a human, for whatever reason, and receives no negative consequences (e.g., being sprayed or shot), it will be more inclined to do so again.

  And so long as man continues to push into bear country, there will be more bear-human conflicts. But as bear populations grow, they must continually expand their range or die from bear-bear competition. With current bear populations on the increase, and with more humans pushing into bear country, we are bound to experience more bear-human problems.

  I leave in the morning for 3 weeks in bear country, hiking alone. As always, I will carry a big .44, not packed away or hanging from my waist, but in a chest holster hanging from a camera strap where I can get to it even if under attack. But that .44 is still a flimsy defense against a fast-moving bear.

  Thus, I will also carry a big pepperspray cannister that I expect to reach for first. An attacking bear that gets a good burning spray of pepper repellent is likely to avoid people at every opportunity, and will teach its cubs to do likewise. This will be the first time I will carry pepperspray in addition to a bear gun.

  Years ago my young family and I were set upon by 5 starving, adult black bears one entire night as we camped in the winderness. (We saw all five surrounding our campsite just before dark, and thus are sure there were five of them.) We crouded together on a high boulder all night long, and I built a fire at the base with the little fuel available.

  The bears kept coming in and we kept driving them out, one or two at a time, with noise and stones. But, by midnight we were frazzeled and felt a need to shoot one of the bears. That helped, but did not end the ordeal. By dawn, they had gotten most of our foodsacks hung from nearby trees, and one huge, beautiful live bear was left, calmly eating the food, iwith the dead bear lying nearby. That’s the last time I have been able to get my wife into the wilderness!

  Eventually, foresters killed all the remaining bears at that location, since they had grown thoroughly human habituated. They should have kept people out of there that season, to save at least some of the bears.

  And they should have allowed more aggressive hunting in that forest. That state had banned bear baiting for hunting just a few years before. That doesn’t help. It only makes the bears harder to hunt, and with a higher population competing for natural food in a dry year, they grow less afraid of humans.

  Turning to lions. I’ve been screeched at by them while camping in their hunting grounds. And last year, one took a good sized deer carcass that I had to leave on the mountain overnight. There are getting to be more and more of them, such that sightings are no longer very rare, whehter in the mountains or on the prairie.

  We have an agreement in our hunging parties that if we ever see a lion watching us, it’s one dead lion if at all possible. I worry far more about the increasing numbers of lions throughout the mountains, and now across the plains, as well. They definitely need to be harvested more, and hunting them is far too difficult for nearly all hunters.

  The solution is to allow hunters to shoot them opportunistically when they encounter them by chance while hunting other game. As it is, the biggest killer of mountain lions is other lions, as they fight it out for territory, since uninhabited lion habitat is increasingly rare as their growing populations fill it up. And as lions increasingly move into urban fringes, they become increasingly human habituated and thus more dangerous to people, especially to cyclists, joggers and children.

  Coyotes are not dangerous to man, but are also on the increase. I live well into a city of 2 million people and hear them howl behind our home, in a marshy woods, nearly every night. Often we see them saunter by even during daylight. Those coyotes have become increasingly bold, and often kill puppies and even join in when neighbors walk their dogs, staying just out of leash range, but letting the dogs know that they, the coyotes, are not afraid of them. Now that’s bold!

  I worry that emboldened coyotes could easily harm our grandbabies, and thus I am inclined to carry either a concealed firearm (I have a state permit to legally carry) or perpperspray when out playing with our grandbabies. I don’t otherwise carry concealed in the city, not feeling a need. But I do feel a need when the small children play out back where the coyotes frequent. Now that is quite a situation, wouldn’t you say!

  Predators have a valued place in the grand scheme of nature. But they need to be better managed by us all. Those that attack humans, or otherwise lose their fear of humans, are too dangerous to have around. Those particular animals need to be killed, preferably by legal hunting. But let’s not be stupid about this - - where hunting is not being sufficiently allowed, people are eliminating those animals as they see fit, and that fact is NOT being reported.

  Keep you powder dry, and your perpperspray and .44 handy.
  Happy Trails.
  JC

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• 27. DWIGHT SCOGGINS  |  July 8th, 2007 at 4:24 am

  Whether or not one chooses to acknowledge it or not, whenever we enter the wilderness environment we become a part of the food chain. Here in Idaho we can have the opportunity of being either the subject of a mundane predatory stalk or the more exciting chance encounter with more than several species. No it’s not their fault. Carnivorous and even omnivorous animals are what they are. Mothers with young are instinctively protective, food caches will be
  protected, etc., however, one has the right to adequately avoid being attacked and taken as prey or savagely ravaged. Survivors may hold no grudge but that does not make it any easier knowing that even with the wonders and all the skills of plastic surgeons,….you will never look the better for the episode. The wife and I like to trout fish in remote mountain streams, but we’re always armed. She carries a .44 Remington and I a .480 Ruger in shoulder holsters, with a Marlin Guide M-1895 chambered in 45-70 nearby and for the trek to and from the 4WD. Yeah, I’ve heard that pepper spray may work. Good for you, but we’ll stay with what we know will work. Besides, there’s more than just animals sometimes located in remote areas nowadays. Sometimes folks that don’t want to be found for wrong reasons may seek out these same such areas. Here’s to the hair of the bear and the howl of the owl, visit and enjoy the wilderness, but do so with discernment.

• 28. Chade Leavitt  |  August 14th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

  Why purposly kill a bear only because it attacked a person? If someone entered my home, I would kill him. When we enter the woods, we know we are entering the “home” of animals. That is what they are. Animals. There are not good bears and bad bears. If you don’t want to get attacked by a bear, then stay out of the forest. Otherwise, leave that bear alone, he was doing the only thing known to him - surviving.

• 29. S. Ainsworth  |  August 15th, 2007 at 5:42 pm

  It has been a while since the attack, does anyone know what they did with the bear?
  As for me, it can talked about till the cows come home, live or die.
  As a police officer from Maryland, I would say public safety comes first. Was the bear doing what comes natural, yes it was. But do you want to take the chance and just wait and see if it kills again?

• 30. johnny  |  August 23rd, 2007 at 4:22 pm

  I see a lot of related comments…
  (Rational) conciousness (usually) allows us routes of action that instinct does not.
  Bears like all other animals follow instinct when they are confronted with a feeling such as hunger, and believe or not, so do humans. If you (or your car) come between a bear and food, you are a threat to its existence,or merely a hurdle in the foraging quest, plain and simple, and they seek and defend. This is their means of survival. Society, the ultimate equalizer that has been used to interface the natural world, even allows for this behavior. Protecting, defending yourself and family against harm is legal, and in the bear world, where that single kill may be the difference between life or death, the bear response is the same, and equally justified.
  To say the bear should be killed is like kicking rocks…you will not change the outcome the next time a bear is put in that situation, which will inevitably happen. The bear will not be aware that the last bear who defended his kill against a human was put down. You can not change instinct, and as conscious creatures with the ability to reason, we either need to remove all bears because of their instinctual behavior, remove ourselves, or prepare ourselves for the chance encounter, and understand how to respond, accepting that the comforts of society only extend as far as society will allow. There is a certain amount of ignorance, and arrogance we all have when entering areas where the rules of society do not apply. We are suddently confronted with the reality that we are only at the top of the food chain while in the confines of society. In the end, we are just small little feeble things in this world, hiding behind a wall of “society” that protects us from the natural way of things (ie natural selection). We have to use the abilities that set us apart to better all. Our rational consciousness should not be wasted by reverting back to a food-chain-line-of-thinking. We are not always at the top.

  No-disrespect, unless you think you can rule nature with an iron fist that is. You will never win.

  Johnny

• 31. drewabs  |  September 28th, 2007 at 11:43 am

  Well spoken Jonny, It only takes an encounter like this one to see how many scared rednecks there are in this great nation. A lot of people are scared of what they don’t understand, and clearly many times bears (specifically Grizzlies) are misunderstood. Just because a bear attacks a human while protecting a food source one time, doesn’t mean necessarily that it will do it again. Bears, and all wild critters for that matter, try to avoid conflict because it could mean injury or death for them. And no, the bear wasn’t eating the guy or tasting his blood. The bear attacked, swatted, and bit the guy to try to eliminate the percieved threat. Yes, It was an unfortunate occurance. The bear was acting out of instinct and therefore, in my mind, euthanization was not warranted. The euthanization was done for political reasons (to appease the Teton Co. Sherrif and his constituents). A day or two more and the moose carcass that the bear had been feeding on would have been gone and the bear would have left the area in search of other winter kill ungulates or new spring grasses and forbs that were emerging at the time (Because Grizzly bears are OMNIVORES and not strictly carnivores like was previously mentioned!!!) In fact their diet is comprised of more plant matter than meat.
  So, to the redneck populaion, (i.e. “holler folk” Most of which have never frequented grizzly bear country),
  that would scream, “kill the bear before they eat our children!!
  I would say to you, uncock your revolvers, sober up, sit down in the lazy boy in your double wide parked next to the k-mart, take a minute to realize that bear-human encounters happen. Usually not the way they overdramatize them in Outdoor Life or Field and Stream. fortunately nobody was killed during this encounter. Educate youselves before hunting, fishing, recreating, in bear country. Carry pepper spray and carry a revolver if you want. Talk to bear attack survivors. Most are glad they were carrying spray and found it super effective. Act responsibly and accept resonsibility for your actions while in bear country. Wild critters and humans can coexist. I had hoped that we as a society had moved past the “man needs to conquer nature” days, but by many of the previous comments I can see that we still have a long way to go…… Oh, by the way, If you want to know what happened to Grizzly bear 398, he is in the teton county museum in Driggs, ID. A nice looking bear. Could have died of old age in the foothills of the Teton mtns if we would have let him. And to all you scared rednecks….GRRRR…… scared ya didn’t I!

• 32. adg  |  October 14th, 2007 at 11:13 pm

  Hey drewabs, as a southern California Redneck I invite you to bicycle ride or hike in one of our local parks. It’s fun, we don’t have them mean grizzlies that go GRRRR and scare us but we have some real friendly kitties that I am sure would like to play with you all knowing all loving enlightened ones. I hear they like to play chase and pounce. And then they burry you to preserve you.

  I was a bear guide years back here in So Cal and I can tell you the difference between a population of animals that are hunted and those that are not is night and day just visit the Sequoias and see how accustomed those flea ridden rugs are to people and how destructive they have become. I am sure your pot smoking hippie peace love type enjoys the National parks a whole bunch. You can thank this countries most famous redneck for them (Theodore Roosevelt in case your history is a little blurry) and thank the rest of us lesser rednecks for all the monies we spend on preserving what we love and enjoy. Welcome to our party and enjoy it. Just don’t try to change our rules that have given you the opportunities to enjoy those wild places. If you enjoy hunting in the mountains and the outdoors as us rednecks do, thank a hunter or fisherman. Protection and preservation does not mean you should be negligent in our responsibility of being stewards of our wildlife and using the renewable resource that it is. Your type make me sick, placing an animals life over our inaliable right of self preservation.

  PS, I let the misses proof me before I posted and she thought you may not understand all this simple talk. If you like write me back and I will dumb it down for ya.

• 33. drewabs  |  October 16th, 2007 at 9:24 am

  southern california, enough said! (Anyone from Montana, wyoming, or Idaho knows what I mean!)
  Interesting though. I didn’t know we had rednecks down there. ADG you were a bear guide? Ooohh scary. What does that mean anyway? Sounds like you really loved your job calling the bruins “flea ridden rugs” and all. A quality employee no doubt. I’m also guessing that the fact that the bears have grown accustomed to people in the sequoias has nothing to do with the PEOPLE acting irresponsibly and feeding black bears in bear country!!! I’ve seen recent footage of adults with their children in Yosemite handfeeding the bears grahm crackers! Geezz! Can we as a civilization take accountability for anything?! I guess not ADG. If it doesn’t behave how we want it to, when we want it to, then we kill it. Automatically It’s the animal’s fault. Isn’t that the mentality that is coming across here? Sounds a little egocentric to me. And no ADG, I do not put an animal’s life before mine or even before yours (sadly). But I ask people to look beyond themselves and accept the inherent risks that come along with frequenting and enjoying wild places. Otherwise, stay home and leave places like the Washakie and Teton Wildernesses to me. You can have SOCAL.
  If we adopt ADG’s mentality then there will be nothing left that is truly wild on God’s green earth! In other words, the world will turn into one big SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!!
  But hey, at least we will still have the jungle ride at Disneyland and Shamu at Sea world to visit when we want to experience WILDERNESS!
  ADG, see ya in line to get on the teacup ride at Disneyland. I’ll be the one eating the churro….GRRR!

• 34. Matthew  |  October 31st, 2007 at 3:23 pm

  If your going to live in bear country, you should be more prepared when you go check on your dog barking ( i.e. take a gun). The bear should be left alone and pursued during hunting season. The beauty of the wilderness is that it’s wild!

• 35. Jim  |  November 28th, 2007 at 10:10 am

  I hunt and eat meat, but people are funny. They don’t seem to realized that there are over 6 billion of us! How many bears? How long will wilderness last? We are so selfish and short-sighted, which is a natural trait, but destroys room for other living things.

  There’s no such thing as a controlled wilderness. Carry a firearm, but realize anything can happen. Don’t be a panzy and call for destruction every time someone gets attacked for playing in the wilderness.

• 36. Joe Smith  |  December 7th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

  The guy knew what to be aware of in grizz country. He should have known better than to go outside at night. He also should have had the dog in the house for safety. The bear was just doing what bears do….try to survive.

• 37. Kevin Gerhardt  |  December 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 am

  When in rome do as the romans do, when in bear country enough said ! I live in Alaska no matter where you turn in every community in this state you must be aware. If a bear eats your dog or cat you watch it eat it and get another. you kill it your in deep doo doo. only special circumstances allow the extermination of wildlife, as your bear I would not have believed to be rogue, they sometimes go long periods without a kill and taking down a moose is no small feat and quite tiring, so I would picture in my minds eye after taking the moose and extracting the heart and devouring it, it meandered off to rest a while when it was disturbed by the barking dog and perhaps felt it’s hard earned kill was at risk of being lost was going to defend it, and the man wound up in the situation of the wrong place at the wrong time, for surely if the bear wanted to make short work of the gentleman your community would have been attending a wake instead of the media covering a bear mauling story. Be loud make some noise disturb your neighbors a little don’t leave dog food out, stop putting out bird seed, and some Wolves and Coyotes are rabid too so be aware of that also. remember those animals are just as nervous around humans, standing your ground and making yourself look as big as possible and yell your head off, bang on something to spook the animal, running always always triggers the hunting attack instinct. We are all animals just of different breeds and the only reason there are so many humans is because the animals are unable to load and carry fire arms and drink and drive. with that being said Have a safe and happy coexistance with gods wonderful gifts of nature and patience with the errors of your fellow man god bless you all…

• 38. big dog  |  April 4th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

  I WAS THERE WHEN THE BEAR WAS SHOT. I WAS ALSO THE FIRST DEPUTY ON SCENE THE NIGHT OF THE ATTACK. YOU COULD HEAR THE BEAR BEHIND THE HOUSE POPPING HIS JAW AND PAWWING AT THE GROUND. THE DAY THE BEAR WAS SHOT WE HAD NO CHOICE THE BEAR WAS TO AGGRESSIVE. ARE OWN LIVES WERE IN JEOPARDY. AFTER THE BEAR WAS SHOT WE FOUND THAT THE BEAR HAD BEEN TAGGED IN THE EAR WITH A RED TAG AND WAS TATTOOED IN THE MOUTH. AND YES IT WAS THE SAME BEAR FROM THE ATTACK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WANDERING. IT WAS A EDUCATIONAL AND NONFORGETABLE EXPEARINCE. IT ALSO WAS A SAD EXPEARINCE. BECUSE PEPOLE ARE MOVING IT TO THEIR HABITAT AND WANT THEM GONE. SAME WITH THE WOLVES (THEY WERE HEAR FIRST PEOPLE AND THEY NEED RESPECT) I”M A AVID HUNTER AND LOVE TO BE IN THE HILLS SO DONT THINK I’M A TREE HUGER. I’M FAR FROM IT BUT THE ANIMALS NEED THEIR HOMES TO. I DO THINK THAT THE WOLVES NEED TO BE WATCHED MORE AND DELT WITH BETTER. IDFG SAYS THAT IDAHO HAD NO WOLVES BEFORE THEY WERE BROUGHT BACK. (BULL SHIT IV SEEN THEM) THE WOLVES THAT WERE BROUGHT IN WERE NOT NATIVE TO IDAHO AND WERE UNFAMILER WITH THE AIREA. THEY ARE A LOT BIGGER THAN THE NATIVE WOLF AND PROBBALY KILLED THE REST OF THE NATIVE ONES OFF. YOU PUT SOMTHING IN A UNFAMILAR PLACE AND IT WILL DO THE EASYIST THING TO SURVUVE KILL LIVESTOCK, DOGS, ECT,ECT.

  BACK TO THE BEAR ! THE BEAR WAS FOUND TO BE 15 YEARS OLD AND WEIGHED CLOSE TO I BELIEVE 500 POUNDS IT WAS STUFFED AND PLACED IN THE TETON VALLY MUSIUM WERE IT IS ON DISPLAY FOR ALL TO SEE. THANK YOU!

• 39. JT  |  April 7th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

  big dog,
  are you kidding me about the wolves?! Dude you need to read up on your natural history. Historically the canadian gray wolves were here. Canis lupis was common throughout the west back in the day. But I do agree with you, when you take something away from wild critters (i.e. habitat, native food items, etc), you have to give them something back. We take their habitat to put up ranches to grow livestock to feed us. We hunt their prey (elk, moose, etc.), then we get mad when they eat our livestock and try to eat “our” elk. WHAT THE HELL DO WE EXPECT THEM TO EAT?!!!
  As far as grizz 398 that was killed last year, I disagree with you big dog. the bear was caught in a leg snare. There are sedation drugs (telazol) to immobilize the bear and then put it in a culvert trap and move it to a location far away in the greater yellowstone ecosystem, Wyoming does it all the time! Idaho just hasn’t figured out how to do that yet. My personal opinion is that Kim Cook of TC sheriff’s office called for the destruction of this bruin and nobody objected too much. Or am I wrong?
  Big dog, I respect your comments, but come on, you sound like you get your info from the locals at the town coffee shop or bar purely anecdotal…In other words, it’s not science based.

• 40. big dog  |  April 8th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

  were you there? NO I WAS AND THE BEAR WAS GOING TO BREAK THE SNARE. THERE WAS NO TIME TO WAIT FOR SEDATION. THE DECISION TO PUT THE BEAR DOWN WAS MADE BY IDFG AND THE SHERIFFS OFFICE NOT JUST ONE PERSON. SO YES YOU ARE WRONG! UNLESS YOU WERE THERE HOW CAN YOU COMENT? YOU SOUND LIKE YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM THE COFFEE SHOP NOT ME. BELEAVE ME NO ONE WHANTED TO KILL THE BEAR. IT WAS A LAST RESORT. SORRY IF YOU THINK DIFF. AS FOR THE WOLVES I DONT KNOW MUTCH ABOUT THEM. BUT I KNOW WHAT I SAW 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE NOT AS BIG AS THE WOLVES THAT I SEE TODAY. SO YES I THINK THE WOLVES WE HAVE NOW ARE DIFF. THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT ARE YOU IDFG OR FOREST SERV

• 41. JT  |  April 13th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

  Big dog,
  I’m neither Fish and game nor US forest service employee. I am however a concerned citizen of SE Idaho who follows grizzly bear research and bear management practices in the Greater Yellowstone area. Concerned because the attitude here by so many is so negative towards the big bruins. Yeah, I kinda like ‘em. They need all the help they can get to make it in their ever shrinking habitat. You’ve probably heard about the development that will shortly take place near Lamont. More bear habitat becomes privitized! Every time a Grizz presses westward, it gets poached by unintelligent redneck hunters who misidentify the species, or destroyed for “management” reasons
  .
  As for the smaller wolves that you used to see 20 years ago, uh……..newsflash, it’s called a COYOTE!!! Or, consider this, wolves come in different sizes. There are adults, subadults, pups, etc… They are not all huge full grown adult animals. On another topic –You’re not the officer who shot and left the guy’s dog in teton valley are you? Was that under K. Cook’s command as well?

• 42. p fife  |  May 20th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  I say we transplant the bear into mr. greggs’ back yard and go from there.

• 43. maplzking  |  July 6th, 2008 at 8:34 am

  It is right to kill the bear if the the bear attack the person first,but if the person who was killed by the bear prokore the bear first,the person deserve to die.i just hope that the bear was the right bear if the bear attack the person first.

• 44. madrzrowner  |  July 9th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

  POLARIS has a QUALITY problem with the RZR: We have experienced a MAJOR ISSUE with our RZR: THE weld on the steering shaft broke after 150 of gentle riding: POLARIS then sent the wrong part labeled with the right part: IT was done 2x’s: Just in time to ruin our 4th of July vacation. POLARIS has the wrost customer service that I have ever worked with and it is sad that the customer has to identified quality issues from the manufacturing process: I am now wondering what else is going to go wrong: BE CAREFUL RZR owners: you may have a bad weld on your steering and don’t think POLARIS CARES!

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