443 Bull Elk from Utah - New Archery Record!
September 12th, 2007 David King - King's Outdoor World
The Utah elk posts will continue to come as huge bulls continue to get knocked down in 2007. Big rumors are flying around about a possible 443 bull elk taken recently in Utah. Was it with a rifle? Muzzleloader? Bow? Is this a New World Record?
This bull is legit and has been green scored at 443 gross and 427 net non-typical P&Y. It was taken with a bow by Jimmy Ryan. This will shatter the record non-typical archery state record (currently at 401 1/8 P&Y). In addition it will also take over as the overall non-typical state record overtaking the 2002 bull taken by Jeff Didericksen scoring 412 0/8 B&C.
…That is until possibly something bigger gets killed. We are just getting going with the season!
So of course you have to ask the question - if the score holds where would this rank in the world? We will have to wait the 60-day drying period before an official score can come in to know for sure, but here is the “what if” factor:
Right now it would fall into the #2 spot in the world behind the world record Nick Franklin bull (442 0/8 P&Y). Currently the #2 bull is the Clay Heuett bull (422 6/8 P&Y). Both of these Arizona bulls were taken in 2003. Crazy thing is, both of these scores are for Pope & Young. However, both the Franklin bull and the Heuett bull score higher, or listed with a higher score, in the Boone & Crockett record books (444 0/8 and 429 6/8 B&C respectively). Both of these bulls were so big that B&C invited them to their panel as well and they are listed in both the P&Y and B&C record books but have different scores.
Here is my list that I think is still correct for the top five non-typical archery bulls listed in Pope & Young:
Non-typical American Elk through 2006 season
1. 442 0/8, Coconino County, AZ, 2003, Nick Franklin
2. 422 6/8, Navajo County, AZ, 2003, Clay R. Heuett
3. 420 5/8, Shoshone County, ID, 1981, Steven W. Mullin
4. 419 5/8, Coconino County, AZ, 1985, James L. Ludvigson
5. 417 0/8, Coconino County, AZ, 1993, Brady J. Dupke
UPDATE (11-19-07) - The official score is in on the Mossback guided Jimmy Ryan archery non-typical Utah elk. The score is 443 2/8 gross and 428 3/8 net non-typical P&Y.
That is big. This will shatter the state record archery bull, become the new overall state non-typical record for any weapon and is a pending #2 in the world non-typical archery bull for Pope & Young.
Entry Filed under: News and Stuff, Buck Alert!
7 Comments Add your own
1. Austin Phillips | September 13th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Sounds sweet, liked to see a picture
2. Jace | September 13th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I Held the new utah state record elks horns in my hands the day it was shot and this elk is the biggest elk i,ve ever seen
3. adam bedont | September 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Awsome, always like to here about bigger and bigger elk.
4. Boyd | September 19th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Was at Ogden’s tax in Richfield the day after it was shot (dropping off our two 6×6 bulls….360-370s….).
Killed by bow….said someone missed by cross-bow a few days earlier! (out of the Pavant)
He’s big…6 on the left 7 on the right (2 thirds on the right…but it doesn’t look lopsided!)…short beams (52-54″ I guess)….big bladed 5ths on both sides and 26-27″ 6ths….long body, but not as heavy as you’d expect.
I’d guess he’s cloer to 420 than 440 after deductions….still Huge! The Mossback boys sure know how to get ‘em.
5. gene Kistenmacher | September 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
great Bulls. I would like to find a search engine that will allow me to look up some individual records. for example I have a cousin who killed a bull in washington state that scored 338 or 328 but was much larger than the score refects. it was a massive set of antlers that lost quite a few points due to imperfections.at the time he shot it it was number three in pope and young for wash. i would like to see where it now stands.if there is such a search engine available i would love to hear about it. kings is my favorite site and my wife and i spend hours a day on it thanks
gene kistenmacher
6. Josh | September 27th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
here’s a link to see the bull
http://www.mossback.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2303
7. rockie jacobsen | November 30th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Hi Dave, I am really impressed by the size of the elk. I was just wondering how many tags were available to this unit and how much they paid for the tag. If large sums of money were involved to take this magnificent animal, I feel any hunter could of accomplished this if they had the money to do so. If it was a drawing for all to put in for, then it makes it a different game.. Thanks Rockie
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