Just another great velvet typical archery mule deer from the 2007 season. This time we move over and give some props to Oregon. There was a beautiful mule deer taken that looks like it will easily take the state record typical in the velvet category and likely to surpass the overall state record. Green score on this buck is an awesome 198 4/8 net typical P&Y. With about 13 inches of total deductions (there is also a small kicker on the left G4) this buck gross scores about 212.
I’ll keep you posted on the official score when it is available and maybe a pic if I can. Thanks to Wade for the heads up on this one.
UPDATE (10/31/07) – Rob McKibbin has just got his buck officially scored. The official results are 202 5/8 gross and 192 4/8 net typical. As of right now Rob’s buck was the new state record archery velvet typical mule deer (see below). I will keep this post active as we find out more from these other potential record archery bucks from Oregon and see if this changes.
Rob McKibben and his Oregon Archery velvet typical mule deer from 2007 scoring 202 5/8 gross and 192 4/8 net P&Y
So how does this rank. Doing some research, it looks like the prior Oregon state record for velvet typical mule deer is 186 0/8 taken by Richard Marks in 1995. The hard-horned state archery record is 195 7/8 taken by Gidion Jackson back in 1990. The #2 buck is 193 3/8 P&Y taken in 1996.
UPDATE (11/14/07) – Thanks Kim for the update. It looks like Nick Mickelson just got his velvet typical archery mule deer scored yesterday. The official results are 207 gross and 194 7/8 net P&Y. He had some abnormal points that contributed to the 13 1/8-inches of deductions. What a buck! So here we go. Nick just surpassed Rob as the new state record velvet typical archery buck. We’ll see if he can hold the top spot for a bit.
Nick Mickelson and his Oregon Archery Velvet Buck scoring 207 gross and 194 7/8 net P&Y. This is a pending new state record velvet archery typical mule deer.
New state record archery velvet NON-TYPICAL buck has also been taken in 2007. For those of you who have kept up on the comments to this post have learned of Chris Dunlap’s new velvet record Oregon buck with an official score of 231 1/8 gross and 225 3/8 net non-typical P&Y as a 11×13 point. What a year for Oregon bowhunters in 2007.
Chris Dunlap with his new Oregon Archery State Record Velvet Non-typical Mule Deer which scores 231 1/8 gross and 225 3/8 net P&Y.
I would like to thank everyone for making this post so successful. Due to your help we have been able to track down the best from Oregon this year and allow everyone access to the most accurate information. I have photos from Rob, Nick and Chris. I am going to be running the stories on all three of these great record bucks in our next issue of Hunting Illustrated Magazine rightfully titled our “Best of 2007″ issue. Because of everyone’s help on tracking these bucks down, I think I will go ahead and post the photos from all three bucks on this post.
So…is this it for Oregon velvet archery records from 2007? Not so fast!
I believe there is still one more typical buck out there that could still mix things up a bit. It has not been officially scored yet, but I have seen a photo and there is no question it could net score in the 190’s. It is not very wide, but tall. Until I can get full permission and get a chance to actually talk with the hunter, we will have to wait it out a bit on this buck before I can do any more…
chris
November 13, 2007 at 3:46 pm
dennis,
i did get my buck about 10 miles from where nick shot his. and i know what you are talking about as far as the fat thing goes, my buck had atleast 1 inch of fat covering his body he was a pig for sure. they must be expecting a hard winter with that much fat. my bull from this year on the other hand had very little fat on him and he was not to far from where i shot my buck. the 225 is net and 231 gross.
good luck nick on the scoring tonight!!!
DENNIS
November 13, 2007 at 4:16 pm
KIM UPDATE NICKS SCORE WED MORNING. WE ARE ALL WAITING TO HERE. P.S I HAVE SEEN PIC OF NICKS BUCK ON MONSTERS MULEYS IT LOOKS VERY LARGE. GOOD JOB NICK BIG AND FUZZY LOTS OF MASS.
Rob
November 13, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Hey,
Yeah I don’t talk much….Hellen Kellar type…lol ! Good luck on your scoring tonight Nick…. Hope it does make the 200 in net, that would be unreal. To shoot a buck with a bow that will net 200 in typical is an amazing acomplishment…heck! Most people haven’t even seen a buck that big in the wild let alone sneak within bow range and place an arrow in the hopper. Good luck and may the tape measure be forgiving.
Caesy,
I would love to give you a better idea of where I am hunting but to be fair… we are online…I don’t want a parade in my hunting spot next summer? I am sure being you live in the area you already have got a good idea.
Kim
November 14, 2007 at 11:37 am
Hi Guys… Nick doesnt get internet in his new house until this week, so this is the info i got from him this morning about his Official scoring yesterday.
After 13 1/8 inches of deductions, the results were
“207″ Gross
“194 7/8″ Net
A month ago, his UN-official P&Y score was 200 net, 210 gross if that gives you any idea how things can change.
SO……….. “194 7/8″ NET IT IS !
Kim
November 14, 2007 at 12:04 pm
ROB and DENNIS-
Since Rob and Nick will be in the record books, our understanding is that once you get your official P&Y score, you send your antlers to the P&Y “PANEL” and they do another official scoring. If the ” Panel” score is higher ,they will give you the higher official score. And if the Panel score is lower they let you keep your first Original P&Y official score. Do you guys know anything about that???
Kim
November 14, 2007 at 12:14 pm
ROB- IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT THE PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR BUCK IS POSTED SO WE CAN ALL SEE YET ??????
David King - King's Outdoor World
November 14, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Kim,
Maybe to help answer your question on the Pope and Young panel scoring (comment #55), you don’t necessarily have to have a panel score to be a state record. However, if the buck is one of the biggest within that recording period P&Y may invite you to their next panel.
If you do go to the panel they will re-score the buck. If in fact they come up with a higher score, that will then become your new official score. But there is a chance that if the score is lower they may override your previous score and knock it down. I have seen it go both ways with different bucks and bulls that are sent to panel and some they will just keep the same score. No guarantee there. However, I think that if the panel score is within a certain percent (1-2%) of the entry score, they will just stay with the original entry score.
Hope this helps.
David King
King’s Outdoor World
Hunting Illustrated
DENNIS
November 14, 2007 at 5:21 pm
NICK CONGRATS 194/78 IS AWSOME AND 207 GROSS GOOD JOB . WE SHOULD ALL GET TOGETHER AND TELL HUNTIMG STORIES ROB AND I LIVE IN THE VALLEY YOU MUST LIVE CLOSE TO BEND.I DON”T KNOW WHERE CHRIS LIVES.
chris
November 14, 2007 at 5:46 pm
i live about 4 miles from salem. congrats to all !!!!!!! i do not think oregon will have a year like this again for some time but we will have to see that hunting you just never know. i also think there is an additional buck that even david has not seen that will score well mabye not a good a nick and robs but it should be close to the 190’s the pictures are at the salem sportsmans. it looks to be about 28 to 32 inches wide with deep fronts and pretty good back forks and good bean length. i have no other info on it then that i just admired the pictures for awhile and asked around but know one could give me any more info. so we will have to see what happens.
DENNIS
November 14, 2007 at 7:40 pm
DAVE… I KNOW OF TWO VERY BIG BUCKS SHOT NEAR LONG CREEK. 1 NON TYPICAL 1 TYPICAL. VERY NICE FUZZY BUCKS . BIG BIG BIG LOTS OF MASS. IVE SEEN PIC COULD BE 190″S TYPICAL . 200+ ON THE NON TYPICAL.
wade ferguson
November 14, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Nick, what a Koob, those bucks were almost twins, great job you guys, way to put Oregon on the map. You guys just made the outfitters a lot more money. By the way thats some big shrinkage, reminds me of Dennis in a snow storm, It’s not what you think. He said he had stuck a big four point and when we got to the end of the blood trail it was a forked horn, In a half hour it lost 4 points and 80 pounds. Great to hear that Dave is going to be doing an artical. Dave, where do we subscribe for this magazine, just lately I saw one, It’s is one of the best one’s out their.
Rob, You or Dennis are now going to have whack that big one, that one will really put Oregon over the top, One good thing hes make babies.
Chris you to, that buck is unreal, his body is a pig, and that was the second chance, That’s some real huntin.
Only ten more months untill season starts!!!!!
Rob
November 14, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Now lets take some of our money from all of the OUT-OF-STATE tag applications that may come of this and do some good with it. Talk hunting… I’m all about it. We need to get together…maybe at the OBH meeting. Also… may we be so blessed to be able to do this all again next year. Think about it…new record deer… for us “stick slingers”! Congrats to all and to all that still have a deer tag, stay warm, dry and dont bang you knuckles too hard with those antlers this weekend. Good luck!
Kim
November 15, 2007 at 2:54 am
David -
Thanks for the helpful information about taking antlers to the Panel. It sounds like it could be risky! Personally is sounds even scary if they are able to reduce an Official Score.
If any person does has a record score, Does P&Y make it mandatory to have the Panel Re-score it before they will put it in the P&Y record book? Or are you saying its more of a choice a person has? And if it IS a choice and a person DOESNT want to take it to the Panel, Will P&Y still enter it in the record books anyway with the first Official Score given?
Thanks again for your help Dave!
Kim
November 15, 2007 at 3:06 am
LMAO on your comment about shrinkage Wade! ( Nice cover up) But it does bring up another question!
During the 60 day waiting period before an official scoring, does it make a difference in the shrinkage of the antlers if they are being stored in a freezer, or kept cold versus being stored in a warm place?
Kim
November 15, 2007 at 3:26 am
I see that Dave says there is another record archery muley in velvet out there taken in Oregon that still hasnt been officially scored yet that looks like its going to score in the 190’s. Woo Hoo! Is this getting even more exciting, or what? Oregon Muleys
“Rock” this year!
Pam Card
November 15, 2007 at 2:57 pm
A lot of big bulls the last few years as well!
It’s Ok Dennis, you may want to stick to a warmer climate and hunt Whitetails, you get to count all their points.
Sounds like it could be the beginning of the Oregon Mule dear club, who wants to be president?
I look forward to the artical, your right it is a nice Magazine.
Great Jobs Guys!!!
Casey
November 15, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Where can i see some pics of these bucks?????
Nick
November 15, 2007 at 8:51 pm
What’s up fellow hunters, I just wanna say congrats to everyone, what a year! I was getting tired of all the big buck stories from Utah, Idaho, and New Mexico It’s Oregon’s turn way to go!!!
Rob
November 15, 2007 at 9:18 pm
KIm #64…. What would make you ask that? But anyway here is your answer….
Here are the rules as per Pope and Young;
“An animal’s antlers or horns (or skull in the case of bear or cougar) must dry, at room temperature and normal atmospheric humidity in an unaltered state, for a period of at least 60 days after the date of harvest to be officially measured.”
I think it would make a difference… as they “cant dry” but whos to say?
Kim
November 15, 2007 at 10:41 pm
I think i may of found a picture of the other Oregon mule deer record buck that Dave is talking about that hasnt been officially scored yet. There is a buck on some other website that has just been posted. It says it was shot in Eastern Oregon and the hunters name is Kyle Woollhiser. Its definately is a nice buck. This is more than likely the competition we are all waiting for to be scored. It doesnt look like its going to have many deductions.. its looks almost perfect on both sides. There looks like there might be a little deduction on one of the eye guards from what i can tell from the picture. The article doesnt have any kind of scoring on it yet. This picture is also posted at the Sportsman Warehouse here in Bend and has been rumored to have an unofficial score of 190.
Kim
November 15, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Casey,
Dave mentioned in the very top updated article that he does have pictures from Rob, Nick and Chris, but is in the process of putting something together. Its hard to be patient isnt it? Ive been dying to see all the pictures too! : )
Kim
November 16, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Rob (comment #69)
The reason i asked the question about the antlers is because Nick shot his buck Sept. 4th when it was still extremely hot here in Bend and his antlers were kept out in the hot environment and his antlers seemed to have shrunk quite a bit compared to when he had them unofficially scored the second time. I was just wondering if a person was to keep them in a cold place if the antlers would hold their size better. Just me being curious, thats all !
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November 19, 2007 at 6:34 pm
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Nick
November 20, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Let’s see this other buck,
Pam Card
November 20, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Those are amazing, Congtrats, Nick, Rob and Dennis
Nick
November 22, 2007 at 9:07 pm
hey dave lets here the other score, i’m dying over here
Pam Card
November 27, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I don’t know if its the same one, but this one is 197 5/8 after 16 inches deductions, thats all I know
Danny
November 28, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Congrats on the final score Rob. Ive been waiting for the pictures to come out on the web with the final score. If you remember we met this hunting season ive been hunting the same place for the last 13 years. Did Dennis ever end up tagging out? By the way I was out coyote hunting a couple of days ago and saw your bucks twin brother! Luckily they made it thru rifle season.
Rob
November 28, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Hey Pam#77…. fill us in. Where did you find that? Could be a whopper out there! Get us some pics. Dave… if you have some pics lets see ‘em. Now we need to see some record Blacktails come out of our late season.
Rob
November 29, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Danny,
Good to hear from you. Dennis and I will be over that direction in the next week or so… we need to get together, chew some fat and tell some stories. We need to find out how to exchange some info…
Oh, about his brother… I think he is bigger.
DENNIS
November 30, 2007 at 12:33 pm
DANNY I FOUND THAT BUCK THE LAST WEEK AND HUNTED HIM EVERY DAY . PASTED UP GOOD BUCKS EVERY MORNING AT UNDER 40 YARDS. THIS BUCK IS HUGE. I FOUND HIM ON THE WEST SIDE LOW.GOOD BUCK 200………. LETS GET TOGATHER DEC 8TH FRI NIGTH WE WILL BE OVER.
Danny
November 30, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Rob, You can Email me @ drpicard@eotnet.net If you get out this way maybe we will have time to go on a predator hunt.
Kim
December 1, 2007 at 1:43 am
HEY GUYS ! I JUST HEARD THE NEWS ! IVE HEARD THAT KYLE GOT THE NEW OREGON STATE RECORD TYPICAL MULE DEER ARCHERY BUCK THAT SCORED 197 AND SOME CHANGE! EVEN THOUGH HIS BUCK IS SMALLER I HEARD IT HAD LITTLE TO NO DEDUTIONS AND WAS ALMOST PERFECTION ON BOTH SIDES. ( IVE SEEN HIS PIC AND IT LOOKS ALMOST PERFECT TO ME.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY FACTS ON THIS DEER?
I DONT KNOW ANY DETAILS, I HAVE JUST BEEN HEARING THE RUMORS. SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE MIGHT BE GOING DOWN A NOTCH.
IF THE RUMORS ARE TRUE… CONGRATS KYLE !
Danny
December 1, 2007 at 10:54 am
Rob, You can email me at drpicard@eotnet.net I would like to get together and talk, If time permits maybe we can do a coyote hunt.
Nick
December 13, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Hey Dave have you heard any more news on this other oregon Buck I need to know because that determines what kind of mount im going to get
chris
December 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm
i just looked at the web site that the pictures of kyles buck are on and he is reporting it at 203 gross and 197 4/8 net. althought i have spoken to several measuers and non of them have heard anything from an offical measurer that they have looked at it or scored it. so i do not know if that score is offical or not.
DENNIS
December 20, 2007 at 10:51 am
KYLES BUCK WAS SCORED BY DAVE DORN OUT OF BEND . SORRY IF I SPELLED DORN WRONG.
chris
December 21, 2007 at 10:14 am
so is it official on the score of 197 4/8??????????
Cobra
January 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Thought I would share with you my 190 Net Oregon Archery buck that I took back in 1985. At the time it would have been the biggest it was one the largest archery bucks taken in Oregon.
Those are some termendous bucks that the guys have taken.
JOEL Santos
March 10, 2008 at 5:35 pm
hey, My brother has a buck shot here in warm springs oregon that could top the charts but has never been scored because it was shot on indian land
callinelk
April 2, 2008 at 11:57 pm
As a oregon hunter my self all i can say is good job scouting. nice buck.